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Monica Hughes PhD's avatar

Repubs: "I AM A SINNER!"

Dems: "I AM GETTING BETTER AND BETTER ALWAYS!"

😂 🤣 Deliciously true. OMG. 😭

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Gram's avatar

I shared the article from Philosophical Salon with my woke nephew who has a degree in Philosophy. He went on and on bullying me, telling me I was too incompetent to communicate with about anything - especially the pandemic. How can he, and other 'smart' people, be so oblivious to what is so obvious -- or so unwilling, so defiant, to even look at another possible perspective? Paul Levy calls this phenomenon the 'mind-virus'.

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David AuBuchon's avatar

We need to plan for a Substack purge. Someone should keep an email list of the best covid authors so a new think-hub can be re-established if pressure to remove "dangerous" info gets to Substack.

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Toby Rogers's avatar

Good point. What's nice about Substack is that I can download my email list and just run things independently if there is a purge. I download the email list regularly so that I am ready for that emergency.

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Roleigh Martin's avatar

Toby, great piece today, particularly your paragraph on "sin". I made a Substack focused on your paragraph just now. https://postpandemicchanges.substack.com/p/the-importance-of-humility-and-staying?justPublished=true

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David's avatar

According to Ontario data https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data the infection rate (number of infections per 100,000 in the given population) is lower for unvaccinated than vaccinated. This is reported across all age groups except the 60-79 age group.

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LovinTexas's avatar

The section on sin is so true. I have noted for decades that there is no humility on the other side.

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John Q Liberty's avatar

Great summary. Minimal jargon, hammer hits every nail square on the head, and written in a way most can understand.

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Sigrun's avatar

Really enjoy your take on different things.

Good talking points

Good to think on these things. Thanks🙏🏽❤️

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Mitch's avatar

Hey Toby,

Another great article. It is obvious to me that you have a broad understanding of the current situation we find ourselves in, and the world at-large.

I would be interested in a proposed reading list from you. If someone was to hypothetically say, ‘Toby, what would you recommend people read to understand why and how we got here?’… what would you come up with?

Maybe an idea for a future post… it would obviously involve a bunch of different areas of study… keen to hear your thoughts.

Cheers,

Mitch

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Gram's avatar

👍👍👍 The Real Anthony Fauci by Robert Kennedy Jr.

👍👍👍 What Really Makes You Ill, Why Everything You Thought You Knew About Disease is Wrong by Dawn Lester and David Parker.

👍👍👍 Good-Bye Germ Theory by Dr William Trebing

👍👍👍 The Contagion Myth - Why Viruses (including Coronavirus) Are Not The Cause of Disease by Dr Tom Cowan

👍👍👍 The Marketing of Evil - How Radical Elitists and Pseudo-Experts Sell Us Corruption Disguised as Freedom by David Kupelian

🎉🎉🎉Highly recommended interview with Dr Cowan and Christine Massey just posted on his Rumble site! She proves thru FOIA request responses there is ZERO evidence of a killer virus - or any virus!

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Toby Rogers's avatar

It's a great idea! 🙌

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Zeus Yiamouyiannis, Ph.D.'s avatar

I've been with you on a lot of analysis, but your description of the FDA, CDC, NIH as "progressive institutions" could not be any further off. They are neo-liberal institutions, which have historically ALWAYS OPPOSED progressive movements.

"Progressivism" as a linguistic concept and worldview as you define-- ‘I am getting better and better always’ — like the revenue chart of a profitable company" is completely at odds with the political history of progressivism as a principled civic action. Cesar Chavez's progressivism (coalitional alliance and empowerment of the little guy) is at odds with an elitist notion of "progressivism" (i.e. vanguard Marxism and technocratic utopianism) as "the experts/the betters will tell you how to live your life better and show you the way" (until they screw up, and then, of course, it's your fault).

"But in public, the progressive is infallible." This again is the very opposite of real historic progressivism (think 1930's US). The problem is that people ARE fallible, and prone to misfortune and error. Therefore, we have to support each other from the ground up, not the top down.

I am hating the way progressivism in real historical terms is being distorted and co-opted to become its opposite. You cannot be a Great Reset, New World Order-ist and ever call what you do progressive, even if you BELIEVE it is bringing the world forward, just as you cannot call yourself a philanthropist (like Bill Gates) and make tons of money off your supposed largesse which you sprinkle into pharma companies and use to "support" (i.e. buy off) news watchdogs and turn them into propagandists.

Proof? Bill Gates convinced Oxford University and AstroZeneca to make their vaccine for-profit, instead of publicly available. A pseudo-progressive is one who plays the symbolic empathy for the poor and downtrodden, while secretly making money and concentrating power off the misery of others. A real progressive directly challenges the retrograde ACTUAL direction of the pseudo-progressive, and fights FOR the people being exploited, while actually organizing resistance with them to TRULY move things forward for everyone.

Cui bono? Who benefits? That is the litmus question. When have you ever seen a pseudo-progressive benefit anyone ultimately, other than themselves. When has a pseudo-progressive been anything other than a cypto-conservative on steroids. An historic progressive is never elitist, authoritarian, or totalitarian, but the opposite, a radical democracist tipping power toward the disenfranchised to "move forward" toward full humanity and citizenship, not as a motto or a label, but as a growing, moving, human spirit-infused reality.

It explains the total inability of progressive institutions — FDA, CDC, NIH — to ever admit that they were wrong. The entire concept of personal fallibility is anathema to the progressive mindset.

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Toby Rogers's avatar

I agree with a lot of your analysis here. Let me try to untangle some of these different threads.

There is the Progressive Movement, 1896 - 1916 that definitely lead to the passage of laws like the Pure Food and Drug Act (1906) that lead to the eventual creation of the FDA.

There is how the progressive movement sees itself, as reformers battling the trusts (oligopolies and monopolies). They were also very good at breaking political machines and big city government patronage systems.

Then there are alternative histories of the Progressive Movement that say 'wait, hold on, much of the progressive movement was funded by the ultra-rich to serve their own interests.' See, Gabriel Kolko, The Triumph of Conservatism: A Reinterpretation of American History 1900-1916. https://www.amazon.com/Triumph-Conservatism-Reinterpretation-American-1900-1916/dp/0029166500

Then there are the modern Democrats who use the term progressive while championing the interests of Pharma over all else. Modern Democrats are often neoliberals who use the term progressive to sound cool.

So there are the principles of progressivism that I largely agree with (almost everything I do is a left critique of the left). But actually existing progressives bear no resemblance to the values that created the movement. So when I direct my ire at progressives I'm calling out actually existing progressives for their failure to live up to their stated values.

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Zeus Yiamouyiannis, Ph.D.'s avatar

Thanks for the distinction, but there are still a sizable and growing number of real progressives. I am one of them. We will not be televised or written about by oligarchic media. It is propaganda 101 to co-opt and erase any real progressive threat, made all the more available by media consolidation and censorship. Old style progressivism is still alive and well (see Rhode Island’s recent successes) but it will largely be unreported. We cannot forget nor fail to recognize the ones doing the work just as we do with those working to oppose these killing vaccines.

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Toby Rogers's avatar

Okay fair enough. This is one of the better left critiques that I've read about this whole crisis:

https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/a-self-fulfilling-prophecy-systemic-collapse-and-pandemic-simulation

But examples like this are vanishingly rare. The entire bougie progressive base (Atlantic, Mother Jones, the Nation, SPLC, ACLU, Human Rights Campaign) has regressed into biofascism. Jacobin and others who see themselves as far left are completely AWOL and useless. Where are you finding these "sizable and growing numbers of real progressives" pushing back agains the Pharma genocide of humanity?

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Zeus Yiamouyiannis, Ph.D.'s avatar

In my community. But yes the derangement is real and a good half or more have indeed lost there minds to Blue anon where “follow the science” NOT! Has replaced Trumpists’ “read the transcript” NOT! Except with far deadlier implications. Thanks for the citation. Will give it a read. I have completely disconnected from any of the above so called liberal sites. Progressive? Hah! If Tuskegee was progressive maybe? NOT!

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Zeus Yiamouyiannis, Ph.D.'s avatar

Just read your link above. Holy F. Boy does that lay it bare. Who needs a conspiracy when you have an f-ing business plan.

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Gram's avatar

Great meme and bumper sticker material!

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Christine99's avatar

Lots of light in this post. Especially liked the Christian conservative/ atheist progressive contrast. Thanks! I'm not the one writing so I hesitate to comment, but ... I've become more and more interested in transcending these dualities and think we are. I'm still sorting it out, but there's a place (experience, movements) where all of these things exist in their highest, benevolent form (humility and true progress, unity and individual sovereignty, etc). Discerning those from people (and their products) who have co-opted universal truths that resonate with our hearts using word sorcery work, now that's mastery. It sounds corny, but listen to our hearts. The body knows. Logic is important and useful, and there are also things that no amount of critical thinking will be able to verify or negate, and the mind can sometimes be full of mirrors and shadows. Staying informed, but detached rather than rubbernecking this disaster; cutting off the evil actors from the supply of our fear and anger which fuels their nefarious machinery can be even more interesting endeavor of personal growth (sounds so progressive, lol). IMHO, we can more easily build the high road/ new world as this old world falls apart, by lending our consciousness more and more to things that affirm life, heart centered humanity, nature and, of course, Love. Thanks again for Thinking Points Memo Toby!

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Gram's avatar

See Charles Eisenstein on Substack for beautiful words on unity.

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Christine99's avatar

Thank you!

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Toby Rogers's avatar

Wow, gorgeous comment! Yes, I agree with all of that. Even though here in the trenches I'm a partisan, I aspire to the vision you have described. Not just winning but transcending the dualisms that have us mired in the muck right now. Yes, (mixing metaphors here) that's the north star that we can use to navigate our ship to safety. Thank you!!!

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hillcountry's avatar

Here's another flank that people might want to consider per abuse of authority.

Analyzing The Opioid Crisis (Updated): 100 Articles & Published Op-Eds by Josh Bloom

https://www.acsh.org/news/2021/10/05/analyzing-opioid-crisis-updated-100-articles-published-op-eds-15848

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Harry Vederchi's avatar

On the silos: I don't believe we are in one, though. It is not reciprocal. We're far more open minded, we have no taboos, we ignore or deny no fact. Plus we do not need to seek the opposite view, it is pounded on us. We happen to be resistant to propaganda. Some people can be hypnotized, some not.

On the "take power": You might well be right, and I agree that it is a priority for now. But as a libertarian let me warn you. We cannot make a better use of power just because we know now good people to put in charge, thanks to this crisis. The lesson must be that central planning is absurd in healthcare as in anything. Competency is judged on facts, not by men. Power corrupts, we must destroy it. Throw the ring of power into the volcano. Separate healthcare and State.

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Toby Rogers's avatar

Yes, I agree with all of that. Brilliant points. Thank you!!! 🙌

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hillcountry's avatar

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2V

Revealing chart of Velocity of M2 from the St. Louis Federal Reserve

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Alix Mayer's avatar

Delightful read, Toby. Incisive & insightful. You’re a true thought leader.

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Toby Rogers's avatar

Thanks Alix! 🙌

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Delred's avatar

I agree there’s more work to be done. We must protect medical freedom and as you have stated so well, make it a huge issue in 2022 and beyond. I only know of one prominent politician speaking decisively about this issue.

Food rights are next. If you think Bill Gates’ involvement with the various health agencies are an issue, did you know he owns more farm land in America than anyone? They will try to restrict the availability of meat I.e force us to eat processed garbage and worse.

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Daithi's avatar

And why would Gates want so much farmland? Would it be perhaps, to raise beef cattle and sheep for all his wealthy buddies to eat while the plebs dine on their mandated amount of insect protein?

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