Discernment, vanity, morale, Russian games, history repeats itself, new house, follow the money, the Leftovers, normalizing childhood myocarditis, ideology, smash and grab job, caring kitten
I'd be interested in your (or anyone's) reaction to the article "Why You Should Stop Using the Concepts "Left-wing" and "Right-wing" (since you just used them). (... in a completely non-confrontational, academic atmosphere of course). :-)
"Then there is Pharma ... science." I think it is best to regard "Pharma ... science" as an oxymoron, since science involves the minimising of conflicts of interest. Corporations are unable to do that, since they cannot eliminate the massive financial conflict of interest. They can do research, but not science. If people thought this way, then we wouldn't have got into the ridiculous situation of buying a product blind, without any scientific analysis, let alone one in which we don't know what we are buying.
We needed to "follow the science": there wasn't any.
This is a new concept to me and I dont have any background to know whether or not to accept it--that exposing the game is part of the agenda. You cant be sure which layer of the narrative is the last or best one. Miri looks good to me just now-- first time I've read her.
So. I went through season 1 of the leftovers. I would have never saw the correlation to autism Toby. had u not brought it out. It was so hard understanding everything going on. A lot going on!! I think what hit me was when Patty was trying to explain herself before she picked up that piece of glass. I don’t want to say what she does in case others aren’t that far in. I absolutely could relate her thoughts to what is happening right now. Everyone just wants to go on with life. They don’t think about all the people dying from these shots. It’s almost like they don’t care. Or if they just ignore it it goes away. But it doesn’t. Patty was saying they had to strip themselves of themselves basically. They wanted to make the people see what had happened. Trying to get a reaction from them. The last episode in season 1 was them doing just that. I’m into season 2 but struggling as it’s moving very slow. I’d love to know Tony what made you relate this story to autism. Did u see that right away or did that come later on. I just can’t help relating it to what is happening now. I know it was written quite some time ago. I can’t wait to get to the end. I think I need to go back and rewatch last nights episodes. I went through like 5-6 and I think I’m missing something in there. This discussion to be continued!!
Sep 26, 2022·edited Sep 26, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers
Your take on The Leftovers is very interesting. I just started watching it; I'm about 6 episodes in.
I didn't vaccinate my 3 youngest at all; they are now in their 20's. My daughter was coerced into getting a bunch of them behind my back when she was in high school; her dad ok'd them and I never knew about it 'til years later. Those 3 kids of mine all display Asperger's-type symptoms which is interesting considering 2 of them got no vaccines and the other one didn't have any until she was about 15. But their dad also has Asperger's type symptoms and sometimes I wonder if I do too; I'm definitely an oddball. My kids' dad and I are both 61 now.
I had a reaction to the polio vaccine when I was a child. I was about 9 and suddenly I couldn't walk. My dad carried me in to a hospital. The doctor said it was a reaction to the polio vaccine. Luckily it wore off.
My children's dad and I received all the vaccines that kids got back in the 60's which were: polio, dpt, smallpox, mmr. Although I used to think it was the whole battery of vaccines that kids in the 1990's were getting when I was a mom of young kids and half of my friends' kids were afflicted with terrible autism, or other serious health issues, now I wonder if my own generation was set up to have children who are autistic.
Back to your theory about The Leftovers, I really think it's a very interesting interpretation. I agree that nothing makes much sense anymore; all the young people seem very anxious all the time and the percent of (American) overweight people (and overthin) people/children, has exploded in the last couple decades.
I'm going to finish watching The Leftovers, I'm really enjoying it. It's thought-provoking for sure. Thank you for your very interesting ideas Toby! :)
Hey Toby, some of us on the left haven’t fallen for big pharma’s bollocks! Unvaccinated and still a supporter of bodily autonomy :-)
It amazes me how you can have so many vaccine mandates in the states and no one seems to argue fundamental principles of informed consent!
Let’s get back to basic principles that we should unite on. Let’s start with UNESCO Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights signed in 2005.
In particular Article 3 & Article 6.1
Article 3
Human dignity and human rights
1. Human dignity, human rights and fundamental freedoms are to be fully respected.
2. The interests and welfare of the individual should have priority over the sole interest of science or society.
Article 6
Consent
1. Any preventive, diagnostic and therapeutic medical intervention is only to be carried out with the prior, free and informed consent of the person concerned, based on adequate information. The consent should, where appropriate, be express and may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without disadvantage or prejudice.
The USA and UK are supposed to be supporting this Universal Declaration!
Ideology seems to me to be an analytical and prescriptive framework that most if not all cultures have. I don't see a problem with ideology as such, but rather ideologues; people who rigidly adhere to a given ideology and insist reality reflects these abstract beliefs. Ideology becomes dangerous when it is not applied dialectically, when it is not informed, modified, and mitigated by a constantly evolving reality.
I would offer Confucianism as an ideology that appears to have served Chinese society well for several millennia. No doubt it can (and has been) misused. But still.
Can anyone truly claim they have NO ideology at all?
"95% of our thoughts are unconscious". Is that a synonym for Subconscious? I doubt if one in a million people think about what it takes to keep our bodies in full operational mode. And it's all automatic. You can also think of it as being involuntary. I often wonder if our operating systems are like a beehive, or an ant colony, full of microscopic and sentient specks of biological/electrical goop, who all have specific chores to keep track of, and make adjustments 2000 times a second, in order to keep our lucky asses marching along.
Talk about workaholics.
And they don't even try to Unionize.
And all we have to do is keep the bare minimum of junk food and city water inside us for them to stay alive.
Thinking about this kinda bothers me.
All these years those little workers have been keeping me and my body afloat and I have never said Thank You, you little buggers, for your service...to me.
Hopefully they also keep track of my conscious thoughts and now they know for sure how much I appreciate them.
What happened to the left was that they accepted being pushed out of the economic sphere. Not coincidentally, the only kind of "justice" they can't/won't fight for anymore is the one that really matters (i.e., pushing for decent wages and working conditions would help people of all stripes a damn shade more than policing language on their behalf). So those folks, the old left, have pretty much zero representation in politics at all nowadays, and the "left" that remains is easily led down all sorts of silly blind alleys fighting for peripheral concerns. Marketing works, and with the media people are subjected to these days, it's sadly not surprising that most people (of any political persuasion) have no idea what's what anymore.
But when you say "Quite literally the worst industry in the world stole the left’s most cherished values", you overlook the military grade propaganda that has been unleashed on the U.S. population. It was Big Brother who stole the values. He won't come clean until there is a full scale de-Trumanisation of the U.S.
Sep 23, 2022·edited Sep 23, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers
Blaming it on "vanity" is too kind. We are dealing with massive amounts of entitlement, grandiosity, and dysregulated emotions including anger & rage. Add it up, you get narcissism - the type that creates cults like those led by Charles Manson and Jim Jones, both charismatic narcissists.
Also called megalomaniacs, these narcissistic and psychopathic leaders wage psychological warfare which results in group think and slavish devotion. These ensnared followers then are capable of committing any violence against others or themselves in service to their "community."
"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire.
Toby, the 2% autism rate may be too low. The autism diagnosis comes when the child is 8, right? Then add two more years for CDC to analyse the data, so the data we see today may be 10 years old? Would love your perspective on this. Or anyone from your readers would comment on this?
As a side note I am almost 40. I don't think I have ever met an Autostic kid or known someone with an Autistic relative in my entire life. Now I went to a very small school that had 4-10 people per class and so had around 50 pupils in it. But those kids had brothers and sisters, younger and older and they had cousins. No Autism!
Now about 10 years ago I heard from someone at work they had an Autistic kid and I remember thinking "So that means they are good at maths? Or what?" As I wasn't even sure what it was. I've since found out that the kid is severely damaged. Not so good at maths? not so good at going to the toilet by himself.
In the last 2 years I've known 3 nurses who have damaged kids. Again we are talking extreme damage. One nurse told me she can't get her son to go to the toilet without *$#/!% ending up all over the place! Her son is 8!
In those 2 years I have also heard from other people which makes a total of around 10 or so cases.
But I find it strange that there seems to a massive explosion but nobody seems to be worried. Oh our kids are braindamaged. Well why is that?
I spoke to my 97 year old gran the other day about it. So gran do you remember people being so sick? Having so much cancer? Behaviour problems? Obesity?
She doesn't. She was poor as dirt but she was happy and that's because being healthy is a thousand times better than being rich. There is no price high enough for waking up the morning feeling well rested, strong, happy, stable emotionally as all humans in nature are.
It is just a shame so many in my society seem to have missed this lesson.
I'd be interested in your (or anyone's) reaction to the article "Why You Should Stop Using the Concepts "Left-wing" and "Right-wing" (since you just used them). (... in a completely non-confrontational, academic atmosphere of course). :-)
https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/why-you-should-stop-using-the-concepts
"Then there is Pharma ... science." I think it is best to regard "Pharma ... science" as an oxymoron, since science involves the minimising of conflicts of interest. Corporations are unable to do that, since they cannot eliminate the massive financial conflict of interest. They can do research, but not science. If people thought this way, then we wouldn't have got into the ridiculous situation of buying a product blind, without any scientific analysis, let alone one in which we don't know what we are buying.
We needed to "follow the science": there wasn't any.
Had anyone come across info regaring increased vertebral fractures after vaccination?
Toby,
Are we allowed to send you links or off-topic questons? If not you can ignore this; your're doing enough as it is. https://miriaf.co.uk/the-great-reveal-or-the-boy-crying-wolf/
This is a new concept to me and I dont have any background to know whether or not to accept it--that exposing the game is part of the agenda. You cant be sure which layer of the narrative is the last or best one. Miri looks good to me just now-- first time I've read her.
So. I went through season 1 of the leftovers. I would have never saw the correlation to autism Toby. had u not brought it out. It was so hard understanding everything going on. A lot going on!! I think what hit me was when Patty was trying to explain herself before she picked up that piece of glass. I don’t want to say what she does in case others aren’t that far in. I absolutely could relate her thoughts to what is happening right now. Everyone just wants to go on with life. They don’t think about all the people dying from these shots. It’s almost like they don’t care. Or if they just ignore it it goes away. But it doesn’t. Patty was saying they had to strip themselves of themselves basically. They wanted to make the people see what had happened. Trying to get a reaction from them. The last episode in season 1 was them doing just that. I’m into season 2 but struggling as it’s moving very slow. I’d love to know Tony what made you relate this story to autism. Did u see that right away or did that come later on. I just can’t help relating it to what is happening now. I know it was written quite some time ago. I can’t wait to get to the end. I think I need to go back and rewatch last nights episodes. I went through like 5-6 and I think I’m missing something in there. This discussion to be continued!!
Your take on The Leftovers is very interesting. I just started watching it; I'm about 6 episodes in.
I didn't vaccinate my 3 youngest at all; they are now in their 20's. My daughter was coerced into getting a bunch of them behind my back when she was in high school; her dad ok'd them and I never knew about it 'til years later. Those 3 kids of mine all display Asperger's-type symptoms which is interesting considering 2 of them got no vaccines and the other one didn't have any until she was about 15. But their dad also has Asperger's type symptoms and sometimes I wonder if I do too; I'm definitely an oddball. My kids' dad and I are both 61 now.
I had a reaction to the polio vaccine when I was a child. I was about 9 and suddenly I couldn't walk. My dad carried me in to a hospital. The doctor said it was a reaction to the polio vaccine. Luckily it wore off.
My children's dad and I received all the vaccines that kids got back in the 60's which were: polio, dpt, smallpox, mmr. Although I used to think it was the whole battery of vaccines that kids in the 1990's were getting when I was a mom of young kids and half of my friends' kids were afflicted with terrible autism, or other serious health issues, now I wonder if my own generation was set up to have children who are autistic.
Back to your theory about The Leftovers, I really think it's a very interesting interpretation. I agree that nothing makes much sense anymore; all the young people seem very anxious all the time and the percent of (American) overweight people (and overthin) people/children, has exploded in the last couple decades.
I'm going to finish watching The Leftovers, I'm really enjoying it. It's thought-provoking for sure. Thank you for your very interesting ideas Toby! :)
Hey Toby, some of us on the left haven’t fallen for big pharma’s bollocks! Unvaccinated and still a supporter of bodily autonomy :-)
It amazes me how you can have so many vaccine mandates in the states and no one seems to argue fundamental principles of informed consent!
Let’s get back to basic principles that we should unite on. Let’s start with UNESCO Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights signed in 2005.
In particular Article 3 & Article 6.1
Article 3
Human dignity and human rights
1. Human dignity, human rights and fundamental freedoms are to be fully respected.
2. The interests and welfare of the individual should have priority over the sole interest of science or society.
Article 6
Consent
1. Any preventive, diagnostic and therapeutic medical intervention is only to be carried out with the prior, free and informed consent of the person concerned, based on adequate information. The consent should, where appropriate, be express and may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without disadvantage or prejudice.
The USA and UK are supposed to be supporting this Universal Declaration!
Here in the UK, on the left, I’d direct you to two websites. https://leftlockdownsceptics.com/about/?doing_wp_cron=1664148154.6186809539794921875000
https://architectsforsocialhousing.co.uk/2022/04/20/the-road-to-fascism-for-a-critique-of-the-global-biosecurity-state-1-the-return-of-fascism/
Ideology seems to me to be an analytical and prescriptive framework that most if not all cultures have. I don't see a problem with ideology as such, but rather ideologues; people who rigidly adhere to a given ideology and insist reality reflects these abstract beliefs. Ideology becomes dangerous when it is not applied dialectically, when it is not informed, modified, and mitigated by a constantly evolving reality.
I would offer Confucianism as an ideology that appears to have served Chinese society well for several millennia. No doubt it can (and has been) misused. But still.
Can anyone truly claim they have NO ideology at all?
"95% of our thoughts are unconscious". Is that a synonym for Subconscious? I doubt if one in a million people think about what it takes to keep our bodies in full operational mode. And it's all automatic. You can also think of it as being involuntary. I often wonder if our operating systems are like a beehive, or an ant colony, full of microscopic and sentient specks of biological/electrical goop, who all have specific chores to keep track of, and make adjustments 2000 times a second, in order to keep our lucky asses marching along.
Talk about workaholics.
And they don't even try to Unionize.
And all we have to do is keep the bare minimum of junk food and city water inside us for them to stay alive.
Thinking about this kinda bothers me.
All these years those little workers have been keeping me and my body afloat and I have never said Thank You, you little buggers, for your service...to me.
Hopefully they also keep track of my conscious thoughts and now they know for sure how much I appreciate them.
What happened to the left was that they accepted being pushed out of the economic sphere. Not coincidentally, the only kind of "justice" they can't/won't fight for anymore is the one that really matters (i.e., pushing for decent wages and working conditions would help people of all stripes a damn shade more than policing language on their behalf). So those folks, the old left, have pretty much zero representation in politics at all nowadays, and the "left" that remains is easily led down all sorts of silly blind alleys fighting for peripheral concerns. Marketing works, and with the media people are subjected to these days, it's sadly not surprising that most people (of any political persuasion) have no idea what's what anymore.
Your writing is great, I look forward to it.
But when you say "Quite literally the worst industry in the world stole the left’s most cherished values", you overlook the military grade propaganda that has been unleashed on the U.S. population. It was Big Brother who stole the values. He won't come clean until there is a full scale de-Trumanisation of the U.S.
No, there is no fascism in Ukraine... they just sing anthem of the Nazi Luftwaffe
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wOikb6ZbnEI&feature=youtu.be
Blaming it on "vanity" is too kind. We are dealing with massive amounts of entitlement, grandiosity, and dysregulated emotions including anger & rage. Add it up, you get narcissism - the type that creates cults like those led by Charles Manson and Jim Jones, both charismatic narcissists.
Also called megalomaniacs, these narcissistic and psychopathic leaders wage psychological warfare which results in group think and slavish devotion. These ensnared followers then are capable of committing any violence against others or themselves in service to their "community."
"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire.
Our dystopian system.
1. Create a problem.
2. Become the solution.
3. Make a profit from the solution.
4. Repeat.
Toby, the 2% autism rate may be too low. The autism diagnosis comes when the child is 8, right? Then add two more years for CDC to analyse the data, so the data we see today may be 10 years old? Would love your perspective on this. Or anyone from your readers would comment on this?
As a side note I am almost 40. I don't think I have ever met an Autostic kid or known someone with an Autistic relative in my entire life. Now I went to a very small school that had 4-10 people per class and so had around 50 pupils in it. But those kids had brothers and sisters, younger and older and they had cousins. No Autism!
Now about 10 years ago I heard from someone at work they had an Autistic kid and I remember thinking "So that means they are good at maths? Or what?" As I wasn't even sure what it was. I've since found out that the kid is severely damaged. Not so good at maths? not so good at going to the toilet by himself.
In the last 2 years I've known 3 nurses who have damaged kids. Again we are talking extreme damage. One nurse told me she can't get her son to go to the toilet without *$#/!% ending up all over the place! Her son is 8!
In those 2 years I have also heard from other people which makes a total of around 10 or so cases.
But I find it strange that there seems to a massive explosion but nobody seems to be worried. Oh our kids are braindamaged. Well why is that?
I spoke to my 97 year old gran the other day about it. So gran do you remember people being so sick? Having so much cancer? Behaviour problems? Obesity?
She doesn't. She was poor as dirt but she was happy and that's because being healthy is a thousand times better than being rich. There is no price high enough for waking up the morning feeling well rested, strong, happy, stable emotionally as all humans in nature are.
It is just a shame so many in my society seem to have missed this lesson.