“It brings me no joy to write this. I identify with many of the goals of the progressive movement. But I’m a single issue voter now and my former comrades are on the wrong side of history.” True for me as well. I once was a supporter of Medicare for All, but the govt response to Covid tells me that it would only be used to force any medical compliance the govt desired. As it is now, I really don’t trust the medical establishment in any way. In the past, it was easier to ignore physicians who push meds to manage symptoms, rather than actually solve medical health problems. Medical schools were captured by big pharma a long time ago. Those MDs who graduated prior to that are now retiring or have long ago retired. We are on our own, especially if healthcare is withheld from the unvaxxed. Best advice is to become as healthy as possible so you don’t need to rely on the US healthcare system or big pharma.
And investigate herbal medicine. Stephen Buhner's books are a great place to start. Before there was Big Pharma, there were plants. People (even doctors) had been using them for thousands of years, because they work! God provides.
We all share the goals of the self-proclaimed progressives. It's on the means that we disagree. They make things worse not better.
Just like on the pandemic. We all want it to end, but we think they make it worse. They accuse us of not caring, of not sharing their goal. They don't listen to us.
Your observations about the progressive movement feel absolutely correct to me. I once identified as far left and I still have appreciation for many of their values but their betrayal of our species has been profound.
Jan 23, 2022·edited Jan 23, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers
"It’s a joy to reach people. But it’s all so bittersweet because none of this should be happening"
I, and I am sure a great many others, have frequently had the thought that "none of this should be happening". It is hard to fathom all the harm taking place with no justification.
Though I heard Del Bigtree speak at a conference last November and I was struck by one of the things he had to say. He said "it had to happen". What I took away from his remarks is that it took a cataclysmic event like this to wake more people up and to bring these issues to a head. He also said that he is glad to be fighting this fight, rather than leaving it to his children's generation. I think that these points are worth considering when we get the thought that this shouldn't be happening.
1. Strange how the scamdemic has woken up freedom lovers from all parts of the political spectrum and brought them together. I once would have considered 'progressives' my mortal enemies, but if they stand up for liberty, that unites us. I even follow anarchist twitter accounts. Strange times.
2. To a Europe based Englishman, the fact that 'Teflon' Tony sails serenely on after taking enough shots to sink a battleship is completely mystifying. All the frauds in UK's SAGE are slowly being weeded out and put to grass, yet octagenerian Tone continues to dispense his unique brand of The Science(TM) with impunity. Just what is going on???
It's extraordinary. The difference being in the UK that people with conflicts of interest were never allowed into groups like the JCVI in the first place. There are naturally more dissenting critical voices with less skin in the game. Plus Boris, much as you love or hate the clown, he is a libertarian and that is to our advantage. Labour would have had us locked up and mandated judging by their tweets
I agree about Boris. Undoubtedly he's been played by the Davos crowd too, but he IS a libertarian, and it would have been far, far worse with CFR-member Starmer in control. Interestingly, here in France, left wing Jean-Luc Mélenchon and his party has been very vocal in his fight against the 'passe-sanitaire, so the Left/Right divide breaks again. Maybe you just have to be an evidence-based rationalist to see it.
As someone you would have considered 'progressive' before, I second your thoughts. I've found some interesting allies in this fight and that keeps me sane. I was always raised to see the Constitution as the framework for all government. We might assent and dissent, agree and disagree, but we were guaranteed our ability to exercise inalienable rights within this space. Whatever disagreements we might have about politics are penny ante in the end, I support the whole bill of rights that allows us to agree to disagree, including that pesky second amendment that is preventing the US from becoming Canada. I am becoming positively awed at the founder's construction of the Constitution. Humans may fail it by not abiding by it, but it, in itself as followed, will not fail.
Treason? The big problem we have in the West is that so many of our political leaders have been put in place, and thus owe allegiance, to supra-national powers. I don't think we can discount this as 'conspiracy theory' anymore.
Jan 23, 2022·edited Jan 23, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers
You're missing the point. It's our form of society that's toxic and we're trying to fix it by simply "treating" the symptoms with such things as fluvoxamine, vaccines, CBD oil etc etc rather than addressing the root cause, i.e. our diet and way of life. It's only when we realise that our way of life is inherently self-destructive that the impetus to change it follows. The rest of the discussion's just noise.
'The inability of progressives to get away from a bad hand when it came to Pharma & vaccines is going to cost them the entire rest of their policy agenda — Roe, climate change, minimum wage, free college, immigration reform, etc. all go down the drain because when the game was on the line, they pushed all in for Pharma genocide.'
Ouch.
sometimes with hard truths you know them subconsciously and then someone spells it out in clear terms and it crystalizes.
Thank you for continued work! I love reading your view on the nonsense we are experiencing. I serve a patient population who has bathed in the Kool Aid and I just can't envision how they will ever extract themselves from the lies they have been fed. I try each day to plant a see of truth, something to get them to think.
Because of writers like you who have been so brave and bold, it helps people like your readers to be less afraid to step out of line against the narrative. I am watching my profession take a knee to all of the lies and funnel this information to us daily and it is painful. In an effort to rescue my profession before we totally lose all credibility along with the medical establishment, a group of dentists, including myself is planning to go in front of the ADA. We want to ask questions and demand answers and we wrote these two pieces:
I suspect Trump didn't quite understand the science, so he couldn't properly get to grips with Fauci's flawed approach. Most people don't understand the science, apparently some of the medics too. I read loads of journal articles but then when ostensibly intelligent family asks to see the same stuff they don't even know what is a confidence interval so can't get past the basics, and they don't trust the other sources who have been smeared in the press. I am glad to be in the UK currently - not that our record is great, and things like Ivermectin etc are still rubbished - but there seems to be a natural anti-authoritarianism in us that means we're not going the route of some of the more fascist countries and I am finally seeing sensible people wake up and ask 'if I need to keep taking this vaccine, is it really working' or 'I'm a little worried about all the people I know who seem to be dropping dead'
Another good article….though the part about people not paying for climate legislation and it should be the big companies…. The big companies will pass the cost to consumers. They will not eat the costs. So people will pay. Best not to have any tax, or legislation. People are getting screwed enough already.
Great insights. I cried when I read the google search as I know those steps unfortunately.
And you are absolutely correct Canada has turned into a prison state. I don’t even recognize my country anymore. Now the government is trying to label the trucker convoy protest happening this week - they are against being forced injected - as terrorists. (a page out of Biden’s book I assume) It’s all so unbelievable to see our charter of rights and freedoms trampled on while 30% cheer it on and another 30% do nothing. But I am hopeful that as the government looks crazier and crazier the middle sidelines group starts to get uncomfortable enough they speak up.
Oh Toby you speak for me too. My prediction is this: the US will realize that it didn’t work this time and the winds are going to blow them out of the next elections for decades without realizing that it is too late. They will follow the UK saying the Omicron is mild and cases are down so their Branch covidians will think that was always the plan. Those followers will never know what was done on their behalf and how close they came to losing their democracy. However, what no one will predict is how the legal wheels are coming for Fauci and the rest of the petty criminals in the agencies. It will not be over until justice is secured for Ernesto Ramirez Jr and the rest of those harmed in service to the trillions to pharma.
Have really enjoyed your points lately. Especially liked the Brandon point today. Kind of funny how our government sends out test kits that may contain a poison regent, where as India actually sends out Covid isolation kits containing - Ivermectin, Vitamin D3, pulse oximeter, digital thermometer, Doxycycline, Paracetamol, zinc, sanitizer, N95 masks and disposable gloves. Looks to me like they are actually trying to curb cases, not create more!! Will be linking your points today as usual @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/
Single issue voter here, too. The main reason I voted for Trump was because he said he believed vaccines could cause autism and that he was going to create a commission to address the issue. That "commission" apparently lasted for the length of one meeting. What a disappointment. Had he followed through on that pledge, the entire Covid debacle could have been averted. The nation would have been awakened to the terrible damage that vaccines have been causing, immunity for vaccine makers would have been repealed, and Fauci (presumably) would have been fired. No Fauci, no immunity for vaccine makers, no pandemic. HCQ and Zinc for novel virus (if it emerged at all). And life goes on...
Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and Obama all expressed concerns about the schedule ('too many too soon'). Yet after Clinton and Obama became President their concerns suddenly vanished and they made the problem worse.
You are one of a handful of "go-to" accounts on Substack for valuable COVID resources and insights. Thank you!
You're doing beautiful work brother! 🙌
“It brings me no joy to write this. I identify with many of the goals of the progressive movement. But I’m a single issue voter now and my former comrades are on the wrong side of history.” True for me as well. I once was a supporter of Medicare for All, but the govt response to Covid tells me that it would only be used to force any medical compliance the govt desired. As it is now, I really don’t trust the medical establishment in any way. In the past, it was easier to ignore physicians who push meds to manage symptoms, rather than actually solve medical health problems. Medical schools were captured by big pharma a long time ago. Those MDs who graduated prior to that are now retiring or have long ago retired. We are on our own, especially if healthcare is withheld from the unvaxxed. Best advice is to become as healthy as possible so you don’t need to rely on the US healthcare system or big pharma.
And investigate herbal medicine. Stephen Buhner's books are a great place to start. Before there was Big Pharma, there were plants. People (even doctors) had been using them for thousands of years, because they work! God provides.
THIS^^^
I'm a libetarian/conservative.
We all share the goals of the self-proclaimed progressives. It's on the means that we disagree. They make things worse not better.
Just like on the pandemic. We all want it to end, but we think they make it worse. They accuse us of not caring, of not sharing their goal. They don't listen to us.
As usual.
ROTFLMAO. The last 2 sentences are classics.
Your observations about the progressive movement feel absolutely correct to me. I once identified as far left and I still have appreciation for many of their values but their betrayal of our species has been profound.
"It’s a joy to reach people. But it’s all so bittersweet because none of this should be happening"
I, and I am sure a great many others, have frequently had the thought that "none of this should be happening". It is hard to fathom all the harm taking place with no justification.
Though I heard Del Bigtree speak at a conference last November and I was struck by one of the things he had to say. He said "it had to happen". What I took away from his remarks is that it took a cataclysmic event like this to wake more people up and to bring these issues to a head. He also said that he is glad to be fighting this fight, rather than leaving it to his children's generation. I think that these points are worth considering when we get the thought that this shouldn't be happening.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Toby...for all the thought and work that you put into every post. God bless you.
Yes!!! Another absolutely wonderful post. The koan, in particular, is brilliant, but so is the rest of it. Thank you so much, Toby.
2 thoughts from me:
1. Strange how the scamdemic has woken up freedom lovers from all parts of the political spectrum and brought them together. I once would have considered 'progressives' my mortal enemies, but if they stand up for liberty, that unites us. I even follow anarchist twitter accounts. Strange times.
2. To a Europe based Englishman, the fact that 'Teflon' Tony sails serenely on after taking enough shots to sink a battleship is completely mystifying. All the frauds in UK's SAGE are slowly being weeded out and put to grass, yet octagenerian Tone continues to dispense his unique brand of The Science(TM) with impunity. Just what is going on???
It's extraordinary. The difference being in the UK that people with conflicts of interest were never allowed into groups like the JCVI in the first place. There are naturally more dissenting critical voices with less skin in the game. Plus Boris, much as you love or hate the clown, he is a libertarian and that is to our advantage. Labour would have had us locked up and mandated judging by their tweets
I agree about Boris. Undoubtedly he's been played by the Davos crowd too, but he IS a libertarian, and it would have been far, far worse with CFR-member Starmer in control. Interestingly, here in France, left wing Jean-Luc Mélenchon and his party has been very vocal in his fight against the 'passe-sanitaire, so the Left/Right divide breaks again. Maybe you just have to be an evidence-based rationalist to see it.
As someone you would have considered 'progressive' before, I second your thoughts. I've found some interesting allies in this fight and that keeps me sane. I was always raised to see the Constitution as the framework for all government. We might assent and dissent, agree and disagree, but we were guaranteed our ability to exercise inalienable rights within this space. Whatever disagreements we might have about politics are penny ante in the end, I support the whole bill of rights that allows us to agree to disagree, including that pesky second amendment that is preventing the US from becoming Canada. I am becoming positively awed at the founder's construction of the Constitution. Humans may fail it by not abiding by it, but it, in itself as followed, will not fail.
Great comment. Agree about the US constitution: the folks who drafted it really knew what they were doing.
Treason? The big problem we have in the West is that so many of our political leaders have been put in place, and thus owe allegiance, to supra-national powers. I don't think we can discount this as 'conspiracy theory' anymore.
I must read it. I just saw this quote: "When Fauci started his career, just over 10% of Americans had a chronic ailment, now it’s over 50%."
It's really gratifying to hear that you're one of the top 100 Substacks in politics. I hope your reach and influence increase exponentially!
You're missing the point. It's our form of society that's toxic and we're trying to fix it by simply "treating" the symptoms with such things as fluvoxamine, vaccines, CBD oil etc etc rather than addressing the root cause, i.e. our diet and way of life. It's only when we realise that our way of life is inherently self-destructive that the impetus to change it follows. The rest of the discussion's just noise.
'The inability of progressives to get away from a bad hand when it came to Pharma & vaccines is going to cost them the entire rest of their policy agenda — Roe, climate change, minimum wage, free college, immigration reform, etc. all go down the drain because when the game was on the line, they pushed all in for Pharma genocide.'
Ouch.
sometimes with hard truths you know them subconsciously and then someone spells it out in clear terms and it crystalizes.
Thank you for continued work! I love reading your view on the nonsense we are experiencing. I serve a patient population who has bathed in the Kool Aid and I just can't envision how they will ever extract themselves from the lies they have been fed. I try each day to plant a see of truth, something to get them to think.
Because of writers like you who have been so brave and bold, it helps people like your readers to be less afraid to step out of line against the narrative. I am watching my profession take a knee to all of the lies and funnel this information to us daily and it is painful. In an effort to rescue my profession before we totally lose all credibility along with the medical establishment, a group of dentists, including myself is planning to go in front of the ADA. We want to ask questions and demand answers and we wrote these two pieces:
1. Our Open Letter
https://trueandfree.org/?p=3370
2. Our Position Paper
https://trueandfree.org/?p=3372
These documents are well written and the masking portion excellent. I have shared them. Now if only it would help to send it to the school district.
Thank you!
I suspect Trump didn't quite understand the science, so he couldn't properly get to grips with Fauci's flawed approach. Most people don't understand the science, apparently some of the medics too. I read loads of journal articles but then when ostensibly intelligent family asks to see the same stuff they don't even know what is a confidence interval so can't get past the basics, and they don't trust the other sources who have been smeared in the press. I am glad to be in the UK currently - not that our record is great, and things like Ivermectin etc are still rubbished - but there seems to be a natural anti-authoritarianism in us that means we're not going the route of some of the more fascist countries and I am finally seeing sensible people wake up and ask 'if I need to keep taking this vaccine, is it really working' or 'I'm a little worried about all the people I know who seem to be dropping dead'
Another good article….though the part about people not paying for climate legislation and it should be the big companies…. The big companies will pass the cost to consumers. They will not eat the costs. So people will pay. Best not to have any tax, or legislation. People are getting screwed enough already.
Great insights. I cried when I read the google search as I know those steps unfortunately.
And you are absolutely correct Canada has turned into a prison state. I don’t even recognize my country anymore. Now the government is trying to label the trucker convoy protest happening this week - they are against being forced injected - as terrorists. (a page out of Biden’s book I assume) It’s all so unbelievable to see our charter of rights and freedoms trampled on while 30% cheer it on and another 30% do nothing. But I am hopeful that as the government looks crazier and crazier the middle sidelines group starts to get uncomfortable enough they speak up.
Oh Toby you speak for me too. My prediction is this: the US will realize that it didn’t work this time and the winds are going to blow them out of the next elections for decades without realizing that it is too late. They will follow the UK saying the Omicron is mild and cases are down so their Branch covidians will think that was always the plan. Those followers will never know what was done on their behalf and how close they came to losing their democracy. However, what no one will predict is how the legal wheels are coming for Fauci and the rest of the petty criminals in the agencies. It will not be over until justice is secured for Ernesto Ramirez Jr and the rest of those harmed in service to the trillions to pharma.
Have really enjoyed your points lately. Especially liked the Brandon point today. Kind of funny how our government sends out test kits that may contain a poison regent, where as India actually sends out Covid isolation kits containing - Ivermectin, Vitamin D3, pulse oximeter, digital thermometer, Doxycycline, Paracetamol, zinc, sanitizer, N95 masks and disposable gloves. Looks to me like they are actually trying to curb cases, not create more!! Will be linking your points today as usual @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/
Single issue voter here, too. The main reason I voted for Trump was because he said he believed vaccines could cause autism and that he was going to create a commission to address the issue. That "commission" apparently lasted for the length of one meeting. What a disappointment. Had he followed through on that pledge, the entire Covid debacle could have been averted. The nation would have been awakened to the terrible damage that vaccines have been causing, immunity for vaccine makers would have been repealed, and Fauci (presumably) would have been fired. No Fauci, no immunity for vaccine makers, no pandemic. HCQ and Zinc for novel virus (if it emerged at all). And life goes on...
Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and Obama all expressed concerns about the schedule ('too many too soon'). Yet after Clinton and Obama became President their concerns suddenly vanished and they made the problem worse.