Most likely it starts by the sane leaving the blue hell holes and heading towards the middle of the country for true freedom. We are almost to the point of building our own alternate space/territory and I look forward to that.
People love parties. I’m not kidding. Parties with real people and food we grow or pick up from our local farmers and playing live music after dinner... this is not the whole answer, but it’s where most of the answers will be found. A combination of divestment from the old and manifestation of local, local, local, local - with some key bridges between local groups, but decentralized. Rejection of mainstream medicine with investment in natural approaches to wellness and health. So much of this is already happening but it takes time.
Agreed. Add to that a sane, balanced management of technology. Fast (wired) internet connections wherever needed but no unnecessary radiation poisoning of school children in order that they can be distracted by their phones during classes. FabLabs wherever feasible, but no "smart" (stupid, really) connectivity that would allow them to be hacked. Options for fast and convenient (non-traceable, non-controllable) online transactions but a healthy habit of cash use for everyday purchases.
One alternative is a recognition of family as the basis of society, and not markets.
Genealogy gives you a set of people you are connected to by history and known genetic relation, as sense of belonging and meaning. I think genealogy is to some degree a cure for wokeness, especially since it is concerned solely with which heterosexual couples had children. Gay and trans play no role in genealogy whatsoever, because they are evolutionary dead ends.
I think you might like parts of this interview. Tucker interviews an economic analyst about some of the policy errors currently happening and how to address them. If you only have a few mins around min 8 for 10 mins they speak about what it takes to make a paradigm shift and how it is by design global capitalism turns predatory.
Hear, hear .. I notice your use of the (not exactly a word) GloboCap, which I first heard 'bout 30yrs back on Mike Ruppers's email group "From the Wilderness" in an email from Catherine Austin Fitts
Bs"d. Dear Toby, thank you for your insight with regard to our present society. Although the word "society" no longer fits the meaning, which we used to attach to it. At least, if we look at what is going on at the moment and the way you describe it. The connection with the Cultural Revolution seems most appropriate to me. What happened almost 60 years ago, seems also be the case in most Western countries: a ruling upper-class, pulled apart from the rest of "society", including the middle class. Through covid and the massive transfer of wealth from the middle class to the upper-class (about $3,000 billion according to RFK Jr), the middle class is no longer the backbone of Western culture. At least not the way, it used to be in the last century. So for the first time since the pre-industrial age, there is now a development towards a kind of feudal "society" in which a rather small and extremely wealthy group of people controls the rest of mankind. However, this time it is much more dangerous, as these extremely wealthy people have high-tech at their disposal in which they can and WILL try to manipulate and suppress humanity (for "the greater good of course"). One name you did not mention: he is not rich, but influential and this person is a professor from Tel Aviv University. His name: Yuval Noah Harari. This evil person is the righthand and so-called strategic advisor of Klaus S. Unfortunately, most people in Israel - where we live - do not know this man, nor his despicable ideas. Yuval considers humans "hackable animals" and he is talking about "useless people". No doubt, the ideas about a susbstantial reduction of the global population, which were discussed within the corridors of the WEF (World Economic Forum) are inspired and stimulated by people like Harari and his ilk. These people, who play "god", are waging a war against the real G'd and His Creation. And not for the first time in human history. But now on a global scale and with the combined might of corporations, media, science and technology. As Beth before me said: "Say no and go local", would be the first step. Non-compliance and the courage to say NO. Even when it seems utterly hopeless. Yesterday, we had an interesting debate over here, in Israel, about the future of mankind. And we ended up with the Torah/Tenach, the Hebrew bible and what our Sages of blessed memory have to say about our times. About 1,800 years ago, they said that between 5786 and 5790, the world would undergo a radical transformation and one aspect of that transformation would be, that G'd or Hashem would take away the evil inclination, which He created to give mankind a choice. Between good and evil. The Sages also said that the redemption from Egypt - 3,300 years ago - would be repeated in the future, but on a global scale. Now the years 5786 and 5790 correspond with the Gregorian years 2026 and 2030.... The other aspect would be the destruction of Evil. It means that all those people who have attached themselves to Evil, are busy to commit spiritual suicide. This seems to be a meager consolation if we look at the damage, these evil people have inflicted upon humanity. But the silver lining is the time table: only 7 years from now and maybe even sooner, the End will be there. It is not a coincidence that the EU, UN, WEF and WHO, are all talking about the "magic year 2030". That's also the year in which the present and almost total and nefarious corruption will end, according to the Sages of centuries ago. Once more and as Beth is saying: "Say No and go local". Let us try to build a parallel society, a REAL society of REAL humans, who REALLY care for each other. Best wishes, Nathan.
With respect to the numb/hypnotized population, they are the accummlated result of decades of vaccines, medications that reduce empathy and poisoned food/environment. Most are simply not capable of understanding what has happened to them nor capable nor wanting to do anything about it. Their brains have been changed. That leaves those that are still somewhat conscious to move out of this by leaving it. Disinengage and re-establish close and local connections.
- What fruitful economic activity can we put forward as the alternative to Global Pharma High Tech Feudalism?
On the economic front, pretty much all has been said, but on the social & cultural forms that would surround the economic core ... some fascinating and counter-intuitive observations here :
"Many imagine the great American man of the past as a prototypical rugged individual, neither tamed nor tameable, bestriding the wilderness and dealing out justice in lonesome silence. But this is a false myth. It bears little resemblance to the actual behavior of the American pioneer, nor to the kinds of behaviors and norms that an agentic culture would need to cultivate today. Instead, the primary ideal enshrined and ritualized as the mark of manhood was “publick usefuleness” .....
American civilization was built not by rugged individuals but by rugged communities. Manhood was understood as the leadership of and service to these communities. Three virtues in particular made this culture operate effectively and distinguished it from modern managerialism:
First, institutions cultivated a sense of public kinship and brotherhood... ...
[Second:] a commitment to formality:
Self-government meant a deep commitment to an otherwise mundane set of tasks. The engines of communal self-reliance were humdrum activities like reading through Robert’s Rules of Order and taking detailed minutes of all comments made at organization meetings. Through practical experience, nineteenth-century Americans realized that formality was an important tool of self-rule. Formally drafting charters and bylaws, electing officers, and holding meetings by strict procedures seems like busy work to those accustomed to weak associational ties. But the formality of such associations expressed commitment to the cause and clarified the relationships and responsibilities needed for effective action.
Thirdly and finally, the usefulness of scale and hierarchy: an embrace of functional hierarchy that allowed local initiatives to scale up to a very high level…. Neither hierarchy nor scale is inherently opposed to agency. Many of the postbellum institutions that dominated American life operated on a national scale, occasionally mobilizing millions of people for their causes.
However, the lodge and chapter-based structure of these institutions ensured those local leaders had wide latitude of action inside their own locality. Local leaders relied on local resources and thus rarely had to petition higher-ups to solve their area’s problems.
These chapters thus not only served as vehicles of self-rule at the lower level but also prepared leaders for successful decision-making at higher levels of a hierarchy. Wielding authority at the lower levels of a nineteenth-century organization closely mirrored the experience of wielding authority in its highest echelons. Absent such training, leadership does in fact become the impenetrable closed circle that disturbed the advocates of “human scale.” Centralization, not hierarchy, caused the demise of local dynamism.
The old “school of strength and character” is gone. The nineteenth-century pattern of life that created it no longer exists. But the features of its social fabric demonstrate what an agentic society with a recognizably modern set of technologies and institutions looks like. .... These are the same patterns any future culture of high agency self-government will also have to cultivate in themselves and their neighbors.
I was just discussing this with a friend this weekend, this weird, absurdist pseudo-reality that’s seemingly been rolled out by the collective global leadership in the past decade … anti-science, anti-reality, anti-logic, frankly anti-human … and trying to decipher a “Theory of Everything” as to exactly what the hell is going on and what this is all purported to mean. It’s honestly so excruciatingly dumb, but seemingly it’s been incredibly easy to manipulate the public’s perceptions of what is or isn’t good or true through simple social media-media driven propaganda. By who and for whom exactly? Who knows. But discussing the whole woke minstrel show (menstrual show?) of trans clown Dylan Mulvany purporting to be a woman, when the very ideology that underpins his trans delusion literally denounces the notion that men and women can even exist, is just another bizarre chapter in this sad, purposeful, corporate-sponsored debasement of everything moderate and meaningful in the west, to the point now where if you aren’t actively at least planning what your strategy is going to be after the “collapse”, I have to start questioning your sanity.
Strange, sinister and stupid in equal parts. CJ Hopkins has been a go to of mine since I discovered him a few years ago (his Covid diaries in the New Normal Reich are recommended) - it occurs to me that one of the fundamental reasons for the acceleration of this insanity has been the utter abandonment of the field by those on the Left with any common sense or sensibilities, as CJ often points out and as is evident through the writings of Naomi Wolfe and others who recognise this. I’m not remotely “Far Right” but it seems to me that the consequence of the left’s failure to kerb its own worst excesses will ultimately be the rise of “real” fascism, of the “jackboot on the neck” variety!
Capitalist Economic policy is only one element of a nation’s type of governance and really has no ideology except to make a profit and use profits to wield power in order to make more profit. Ownership of private property, including land, business, raw materials, factories, cheap labor and intellectual secrets is the capitalist model. Unregulated, it allows consolidation of wealth and power in the hands of a few.
The mistake of democratic governments was not to regulate capitalism enough. Without protection of the workers for health, safety, fair wages, education and training, we end up like Central America where the people live with tyranny and in poverty. Welfare for the people decreases profits. Laws were written to give corporations political privileges so the 1 man, 1 vote rule no longer applies. Unions have been broken, which balanced the power. In US high industrial period between 1950-1990 unions were more active and business and innovation thrived. Now it’s stakeholder capitalism where CEOs heavily influence public policy, culture and law.
Any political system must have social ideology to protect human rights and serve the interests of a wider range of people than we have now. Now we are stuck with greedy Oligarchs with enough power to turn the world into one big Totalitarian State with NO human rights. Another mistake was the indifference, passivity, apathy of masses of people about political participation. Without more active participation, the Oligarchs took over. It’s just lazy and stupid not to pay attention to what is going on. Now we are stuck. To get out of it we all need to become political activists and start a cultural revolution. We need a new ideology because democracy has failed to serves us well in the end. Private property ownership and capitalism in itself is not a bad thing, just needs fair distribution and competition via social regulation for the common good.
Absolutely. While the public was distracted by just trying to survive or watching football, the global capitalists were busy taking over basic infrastructure and legalizing greed with privatization and bribery of government administrators and politicians. While the people trusted the government to do the right thing and guard freedom, telling themselves that voting every few years or watching one debate on TV in a rigged election with candidates selected by the capitalists that they were participating in a democracy, they are now shocked and wondering what happened.
Less Pharma, More Regenerative Farms. Local, local, local. Find likeminded people and connect with them. Get to know your farmers, so you buy whole organic foods. Stop, or at least cut wayyyyyyy back from shopping at the toxic, poison, grocery conglomerates. Stop eating garbage processed foods full of shit and poison (glyphosate) that is making you sick. It's bloody addictive, but once you start eating "real" whole foods the addictive behaviors will pass. Trust me.
I am back. Dogs to walk, exercise (weight bearing, etc.), a gardening class and some reflection on what I wanted to say. First, we warriors have to come to grips with the sticky fact that it really only takes between 3-8 percent of the adult population to create a "smashing revolution." Truly. That's it. If even 5% just said no to the forced "slavery" being thrust upon us the whole fuckery would come crashing down on the piss ant elites. Did you know that it took only 8% of the adult population to win the Civil War? So here's the deal--we will be doing the bidding, heavy-lifting, decision-making, etc., etc. So, first we have to have a vision of what actual freedom looks like--define it. Because, at present we are living in fear of what we say, who's listening, and fear of what we can lose if we speak the truth. The answer to the question posed by Toby cannot be reasonably answered without a vision of what freedom looks and feels like today.
Most likely it starts by the sane leaving the blue hell holes and heading towards the middle of the country for true freedom. We are almost to the point of building our own alternate space/territory and I look forward to that.
People love parties. I’m not kidding. Parties with real people and food we grow or pick up from our local farmers and playing live music after dinner... this is not the whole answer, but it’s where most of the answers will be found. A combination of divestment from the old and manifestation of local, local, local, local - with some key bridges between local groups, but decentralized. Rejection of mainstream medicine with investment in natural approaches to wellness and health. So much of this is already happening but it takes time.
Agreed. Add to that a sane, balanced management of technology. Fast (wired) internet connections wherever needed but no unnecessary radiation poisoning of school children in order that they can be distracted by their phones during classes. FabLabs wherever feasible, but no "smart" (stupid, really) connectivity that would allow them to be hacked. Options for fast and convenient (non-traceable, non-controllable) online transactions but a healthy habit of cash use for everyday purchases.
It's definitely doable!
Revolution - a taste of the future in temporary autonomous zones!
https://rumble.com/v2hpryu-naomi-wolf-whats-in-the-pfizer-documents.html
One alternative is a recognition of family as the basis of society, and not markets.
Genealogy gives you a set of people you are connected to by history and known genetic relation, as sense of belonging and meaning. I think genealogy is to some degree a cure for wokeness, especially since it is concerned solely with which heterosexual couples had children. Gay and trans play no role in genealogy whatsoever, because they are evolutionary dead ends.
Dr Toby
I think you might like parts of this interview. Tucker interviews an economic analyst about some of the policy errors currently happening and how to address them. If you only have a few mins around min 8 for 10 mins they speak about what it takes to make a paradigm shift and how it is by design global capitalism turns predatory.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/GX74iJCbiTFA/
Hear, hear .. I notice your use of the (not exactly a word) GloboCap, which I first heard 'bout 30yrs back on Mike Ruppers's email group "From the Wilderness" in an email from Catherine Austin Fitts
-blast from the past .. ty
Bs"d. Dear Toby, thank you for your insight with regard to our present society. Although the word "society" no longer fits the meaning, which we used to attach to it. At least, if we look at what is going on at the moment and the way you describe it. The connection with the Cultural Revolution seems most appropriate to me. What happened almost 60 years ago, seems also be the case in most Western countries: a ruling upper-class, pulled apart from the rest of "society", including the middle class. Through covid and the massive transfer of wealth from the middle class to the upper-class (about $3,000 billion according to RFK Jr), the middle class is no longer the backbone of Western culture. At least not the way, it used to be in the last century. So for the first time since the pre-industrial age, there is now a development towards a kind of feudal "society" in which a rather small and extremely wealthy group of people controls the rest of mankind. However, this time it is much more dangerous, as these extremely wealthy people have high-tech at their disposal in which they can and WILL try to manipulate and suppress humanity (for "the greater good of course"). One name you did not mention: he is not rich, but influential and this person is a professor from Tel Aviv University. His name: Yuval Noah Harari. This evil person is the righthand and so-called strategic advisor of Klaus S. Unfortunately, most people in Israel - where we live - do not know this man, nor his despicable ideas. Yuval considers humans "hackable animals" and he is talking about "useless people". No doubt, the ideas about a susbstantial reduction of the global population, which were discussed within the corridors of the WEF (World Economic Forum) are inspired and stimulated by people like Harari and his ilk. These people, who play "god", are waging a war against the real G'd and His Creation. And not for the first time in human history. But now on a global scale and with the combined might of corporations, media, science and technology. As Beth before me said: "Say no and go local", would be the first step. Non-compliance and the courage to say NO. Even when it seems utterly hopeless. Yesterday, we had an interesting debate over here, in Israel, about the future of mankind. And we ended up with the Torah/Tenach, the Hebrew bible and what our Sages of blessed memory have to say about our times. About 1,800 years ago, they said that between 5786 and 5790, the world would undergo a radical transformation and one aspect of that transformation would be, that G'd or Hashem would take away the evil inclination, which He created to give mankind a choice. Between good and evil. The Sages also said that the redemption from Egypt - 3,300 years ago - would be repeated in the future, but on a global scale. Now the years 5786 and 5790 correspond with the Gregorian years 2026 and 2030.... The other aspect would be the destruction of Evil. It means that all those people who have attached themselves to Evil, are busy to commit spiritual suicide. This seems to be a meager consolation if we look at the damage, these evil people have inflicted upon humanity. But the silver lining is the time table: only 7 years from now and maybe even sooner, the End will be there. It is not a coincidence that the EU, UN, WEF and WHO, are all talking about the "magic year 2030". That's also the year in which the present and almost total and nefarious corruption will end, according to the Sages of centuries ago. Once more and as Beth is saying: "Say No and go local". Let us try to build a parallel society, a REAL society of REAL humans, who REALLY care for each other. Best wishes, Nathan.
Answer: Say No and go local.
With respect to the numb/hypnotized population, they are the accummlated result of decades of vaccines, medications that reduce empathy and poisoned food/environment. Most are simply not capable of understanding what has happened to them nor capable nor wanting to do anything about it. Their brains have been changed. That leaves those that are still somewhat conscious to move out of this by leaving it. Disinengage and re-establish close and local connections.
THIS.
This is an interesting read, but I prefer the artistry of these two women better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueUXNL-A3Zg
I don't see the competition, but great pointer, thanks
- What fruitful economic activity can we put forward as the alternative to Global Pharma High Tech Feudalism?
On the economic front, pretty much all has been said, but on the social & cultural forms that would surround the economic core ... some fascinating and counter-intuitive observations here :
"Many imagine the great American man of the past as a prototypical rugged individual, neither tamed nor tameable, bestriding the wilderness and dealing out justice in lonesome silence. But this is a false myth. It bears little resemblance to the actual behavior of the American pioneer, nor to the kinds of behaviors and norms that an agentic culture would need to cultivate today. Instead, the primary ideal enshrined and ritualized as the mark of manhood was “publick usefuleness” .....
American civilization was built not by rugged individuals but by rugged communities. Manhood was understood as the leadership of and service to these communities. Three virtues in particular made this culture operate effectively and distinguished it from modern managerialism:
First, institutions cultivated a sense of public kinship and brotherhood... ...
[Second:] a commitment to formality:
Self-government meant a deep commitment to an otherwise mundane set of tasks. The engines of communal self-reliance were humdrum activities like reading through Robert’s Rules of Order and taking detailed minutes of all comments made at organization meetings. Through practical experience, nineteenth-century Americans realized that formality was an important tool of self-rule. Formally drafting charters and bylaws, electing officers, and holding meetings by strict procedures seems like busy work to those accustomed to weak associational ties. But the formality of such associations expressed commitment to the cause and clarified the relationships and responsibilities needed for effective action.
Thirdly and finally, the usefulness of scale and hierarchy: an embrace of functional hierarchy that allowed local initiatives to scale up to a very high level…. Neither hierarchy nor scale is inherently opposed to agency. Many of the postbellum institutions that dominated American life operated on a national scale, occasionally mobilizing millions of people for their causes.
However, the lodge and chapter-based structure of these institutions ensured those local leaders had wide latitude of action inside their own locality. Local leaders relied on local resources and thus rarely had to petition higher-ups to solve their area’s problems.
These chapters thus not only served as vehicles of self-rule at the lower level but also prepared leaders for successful decision-making at higher levels of a hierarchy. Wielding authority at the lower levels of a nineteenth-century organization closely mirrored the experience of wielding authority in its highest echelons. Absent such training, leadership does in fact become the impenetrable closed circle that disturbed the advocates of “human scale.” Centralization, not hierarchy, caused the demise of local dynamism.
The old “school of strength and character” is gone. The nineteenth-century pattern of life that created it no longer exists. But the features of its social fabric demonstrate what an agentic society with a recognizably modern set of technologies and institutions looks like. .... These are the same patterns any future culture of high agency self-government will also have to cultivate in themselves and their neighbors.
https://scholars-stage.org/lessons-from-and-limitations-of-the-19th-century-experience/
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I was just discussing this with a friend this weekend, this weird, absurdist pseudo-reality that’s seemingly been rolled out by the collective global leadership in the past decade … anti-science, anti-reality, anti-logic, frankly anti-human … and trying to decipher a “Theory of Everything” as to exactly what the hell is going on and what this is all purported to mean. It’s honestly so excruciatingly dumb, but seemingly it’s been incredibly easy to manipulate the public’s perceptions of what is or isn’t good or true through simple social media-media driven propaganda. By who and for whom exactly? Who knows. But discussing the whole woke minstrel show (menstrual show?) of trans clown Dylan Mulvany purporting to be a woman, when the very ideology that underpins his trans delusion literally denounces the notion that men and women can even exist, is just another bizarre chapter in this sad, purposeful, corporate-sponsored debasement of everything moderate and meaningful in the west, to the point now where if you aren’t actively at least planning what your strategy is going to be after the “collapse”, I have to start questioning your sanity.
It's all so incredibly strange.
Strange, sinister and stupid in equal parts. CJ Hopkins has been a go to of mine since I discovered him a few years ago (his Covid diaries in the New Normal Reich are recommended) - it occurs to me that one of the fundamental reasons for the acceleration of this insanity has been the utter abandonment of the field by those on the Left with any common sense or sensibilities, as CJ often points out and as is evident through the writings of Naomi Wolfe and others who recognise this. I’m not remotely “Far Right” but it seems to me that the consequence of the left’s failure to kerb its own worst excesses will ultimately be the rise of “real” fascism, of the “jackboot on the neck” variety!
Capitalist Economic policy is only one element of a nation’s type of governance and really has no ideology except to make a profit and use profits to wield power in order to make more profit. Ownership of private property, including land, business, raw materials, factories, cheap labor and intellectual secrets is the capitalist model. Unregulated, it allows consolidation of wealth and power in the hands of a few.
The mistake of democratic governments was not to regulate capitalism enough. Without protection of the workers for health, safety, fair wages, education and training, we end up like Central America where the people live with tyranny and in poverty. Welfare for the people decreases profits. Laws were written to give corporations political privileges so the 1 man, 1 vote rule no longer applies. Unions have been broken, which balanced the power. In US high industrial period between 1950-1990 unions were more active and business and innovation thrived. Now it’s stakeholder capitalism where CEOs heavily influence public policy, culture and law.
Any political system must have social ideology to protect human rights and serve the interests of a wider range of people than we have now. Now we are stuck with greedy Oligarchs with enough power to turn the world into one big Totalitarian State with NO human rights. Another mistake was the indifference, passivity, apathy of masses of people about political participation. Without more active participation, the Oligarchs took over. It’s just lazy and stupid not to pay attention to what is going on. Now we are stuck. To get out of it we all need to become political activists and start a cultural revolution. We need a new ideology because democracy has failed to serves us well in the end. Private property ownership and capitalism in itself is not a bad thing, just needs fair distribution and competition via social regulation for the common good.
Private public partnerships should never have been allowed.
Private takeover of public funded infrastructure should never haver been allowed
The limits of Government in the free market system were never established.
Captitalist limits were never established or enforced.
Free Markets are a utopian idea, Capitalists are greedy.
As Frédéric Bastiat warned, legal plunder was never stopped. Political Correctness is legal plunder too.
Absolutely. While the public was distracted by just trying to survive or watching football, the global capitalists were busy taking over basic infrastructure and legalizing greed with privatization and bribery of government administrators and politicians. While the people trusted the government to do the right thing and guard freedom, telling themselves that voting every few years or watching one debate on TV in a rigged election with candidates selected by the capitalists that they were participating in a democracy, they are now shocked and wondering what happened.
Corporatism subsumed and spat out capitalism some time ago. And to me corporatism is just fascism with a better logo and slogan.
I always spell it “corpirate”... much more meaningful that way.
Y'know, sometimes I wonder whether we ever really abandoned "mercantilism"...
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!
Less Pharma, More Regenerative Farms. Local, local, local. Find likeminded people and connect with them. Get to know your farmers, so you buy whole organic foods. Stop, or at least cut wayyyyyyy back from shopping at the toxic, poison, grocery conglomerates. Stop eating garbage processed foods full of shit and poison (glyphosate) that is making you sick. It's bloody addictive, but once you start eating "real" whole foods the addictive behaviors will pass. Trust me.
I am back. Dogs to walk, exercise (weight bearing, etc.), a gardening class and some reflection on what I wanted to say. First, we warriors have to come to grips with the sticky fact that it really only takes between 3-8 percent of the adult population to create a "smashing revolution." Truly. That's it. If even 5% just said no to the forced "slavery" being thrust upon us the whole fuckery would come crashing down on the piss ant elites. Did you know that it took only 8% of the adult population to win the Civil War? So here's the deal--we will be doing the bidding, heavy-lifting, decision-making, etc., etc. So, first we have to have a vision of what actual freedom looks like--define it. Because, at present we are living in fear of what we say, who's listening, and fear of what we can lose if we speak the truth. The answer to the question posed by Toby cannot be reasonably answered without a vision of what freedom looks and feels like today.