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I also like the term democide--the government initiated all of this and intended the result.

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With regard to bearing the painful knowledge of the millions of innocent victims, not just of biosecurity fascists, but of all misrule:

It helps me profoundly to know/feel that the victims are so brave that they would take on such tragic biographies. Of course, this involves some metaphysics we might not share. But perhaps it could be boiled down to a baseline idea which, according to Donald Hoffmann, is supported by mathematics (didn't get around to checking the maths out at all, and I'm not certain I could if I did find the time):

If a boundless consciousness is projecting spacetime as a type of "headset", as Hoffmann states, in which it can experience itself, and thus we all are that consciousness killing, birthing, raping and loving itself, there does seem to be some saving grace, at least to me. Of course, this is far from a novel idea, but Hoffmann claims to have established it logically within the scientific framework.

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1. Negative-sum is brilliant.

2. You answered your “Denialism” question: if you allow yourself to feel the full weight of what’s really happening, you won’t be able to function.

3. The decline of morality is caused by schools teaching survival of the fittest and ignoring moral teachings and the Bible. Also valuing money over everything else. Also ostracizing parents, generationally.

Please take your children out of school!

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Oct 27, 2023Liked by Toby Rogers

I get some weird feeling when I see orange cats. I just love them.

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Oct 26, 2023Liked by Toby Rogers

Pray.

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Oct 25, 2023Liked by Toby Rogers

It seems like your premise for this is that our leaders and their servants are uniquely horrible throughout history. I’m not sure about that, there’s some bad stuff in history. Now might be special because people around the world are more connected - both good and bad can spread easily.

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Can someone please recommend a way to transcend this dilemma? Or at least manage it in a healthy way?

I agree with Heidi. I choose that all of us that are awake and living in the truth are gifted by God. There is no answer to evil. We just have to keep speaking the truth loudly and often. You may or may not ascribe to God. I do, and He leads and guides.

Your work Toby is important! You keep telling the truth-loudly and often. People are waking up. It will never be perfect, but living a life with purpose and truth is a healthy life. It will never be comfortable because it wasn't meant to be that way.

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I thought a lot about this today. I talked to a trusted friend today. We are all struggling to understand how this iatrogenocide could happen. If you're like me, it's clear, it's Biblical, God tells the story clearly in His first Book of Genesis. I talk to Him daily for guidance. He loves me with conditions that I sincerely try to abide in every day.. It's difficult Does anyone have better answer to this evil? I say NO. Can we get revenge? NO. Can we have peace and joy? Absolutely. Every day. Your effort to reveal truth is seen. It's important.

Who do you talk to talk to daily for guidance in this crazy world?

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Oct 25, 2023·edited Oct 25, 2023Liked by Toby Rogers

I believe this was one of the best conversations I've heard about much of what you point out- Dark Horse with Chris Martenson

https://spotify.link/IMfSkl8ZbEb

I've been managing "life" by taking in a feral pregnant cat who had four kittens 6wks ago. It has been a healing distraction for her and I! She's off the streets and I have a renewed belief in miracles. Had she not chosen me to be her person I'd still be in bed...

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“The dilemma we all face” – I was very much influenced by Zen in the 1960s as well as by the American Transcendentalists. I find these valuable and comforting to read and ponder. For a quick fix I would recommend reading the Tao Te Ching to reconnect your mind with transcendent reality.

“The negative sum economy” – otherwise called the scam economy where everyone loses except the scammers.

Is there any research that is testable to show that “leaders throughout the developed world are unable to problem-solve or think clearly about anything”? They seem to think very clearly about their own enrichment and exemption from criticism.

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Toby, thank you for asking out loud what I have been asking since 2021's horrible iatorgenocide...How do we, who have to watch our friends and family succumb...get through this? Without going insane? Or shutting our hearts inside of cement? I'm afraid of what will happen to me when the full extent of my losses finally break through, and I am on the floor on my knees? How do you cope with the realization of all we have all lost? When you realize that everything you thought you knew is wrong?

That you are living in a real life version of The Walking Dead? The zombies in this show are not the dead and dying...they are the living zombies who will not see or indicate that they understand the massive lie we have been living in....starting with vaccines and going up to and through our government...that someone other than who we thought is pulling the strings...and they are not finished yet.

I walk through zombies daily....pretending to be dead like them...but I am not dead. I see so very clearly that every system has been broken and corrupted beyond repair.

And you cannot turn the real life version of the Walking Dead show off....you cannot wake up (or go comfortably back to sleep) knowing what we know now?

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The only way through the Autism debacle is through it, moving through all the stages of grief. In this case, it also requires admitting one’s own role in it.

Fifteen years ago, parents said, “I trusted my doctor. They didn’t tell me...”

Today, parents says, “My mom/sister/friend tried to warn me and I didn’t believe them.” And this is much harder to accept. An injury today did come with a warning, one they didn’t just ignore, but often responded to with either disdain or vitriol.

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Dec 7, 2023Liked by Toby Rogers

Two physicians, former colleagues, with whom I spoke this week.

One has a 21 year old son "High functioning autistic."

The other has a 4 year old grandson "On the spectrum."

Neither would contemplate vaccine injury I believe.

I have "Trojan-Horsed" the first with my copy of "Turtles All the Way Down" and will be interested to find if he has made the connection when I see him in the new year (I have been "Voted off the Island" after declining my clot-shots) or whether he has deemed the book unreadable.

I am still uncertain whether I should attempt a consciousness-raising in my second friend.

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Thank you for your thoughtful comments, Melissa. I'm not exactly giving doctors a free pass about their participation in the atrocities committed by modern medicine. I believe that doctors have failed in their duty to honor the Hippocratic oath and that this is a terrible moral failing. The problem is that none of us is perfect, and if you put a lot of pressure on people financially, they are apt to do things they would not otherwise do. The Stanley Milgram experiments demonstrated that even good people can go down a dark path, given sufficient social pressure. Imagine having a young family and being threatened with the loss of your medical license. You might do things you wouldn't normally consider acceptable to protect your family. Noone, particularly doctors should be ever put in this position. This is the system we have though. There are other problems with the medical system as well, none of which help doctors to exercise proper moral oversight over their own interactions with patients. Not the least of these is the training that orients them to prescribe a "pill for every ill"

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Oct 24, 2023·edited Oct 24, 2023

What we failed to realize is that corporations, FOR PROFIT corporations, have been taking over health care/hospitals/practices for more than 10 years. There are no independent practices anymore...or very few.

We had such comfortable lives...we beleived that the polio vaccine was a life-saver, and couldn't conceive of vaccines being bad (and of course, the more the better)...even AFTER we knew (although it wasn't widely known) that the SV monkey stuff in them caused cancer later in life. We went sleepwalking through our comfortable lives.

Savor your creature comforts now...hot and cold running water, safety, food, warmth, transportation, books....they won't be around for too much longer.

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Oct 24, 2023Liked by Toby Rogers

I wondered about injection injury when the story of the Alaska Air pilot came out yesterday. He tried to disable the plane’s engines mid flight. He’s a regular looking white dude with 2 kids.

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Shrooms

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Oh I just read that he did admit to that!! I thought you were just being clever!!

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Or is he being clever?

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haha maybe

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Oct 24, 2023Liked by Toby Rogers

Ecclesiastes 1:9-10 is a verse that comforts me. No matter the era, what is happening now, has been happening since the beginning of time. Rulers trying to rule. Free thinkers pushing back. It is what it is. It’s not likely to change. If it weren’t this iatrogenocide it would be something else. We do the best we can while we are here. Relying on God and developing a relationship with Him has helped me. Nothing else seemed to work.

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I thnk that verse is fatalistic. Things are never the same and mass killing by injection hasn't happened before, this is government cabal and health care industry totally coopted and mobilized by financial terrorists (central bankers and ultra wealthy) to murder 80% of the world's population. maybe you don't really believe degenerate inbred weirdo bill gates when he says things will only return to normal when the whole world is shot up by his deadly bioweapon injections. there's also the thing that i haven't been here before so this is new relevant to myself. i'm concerned that religion is a form of Operation Mockingbird that has been going on since the beginning of humanity and of course religion has a verse for everything. i fully expect that the inbred degenerates pulling the strings don't believe any of that.

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Thanks for saying these things. 50 years ago the world seemed to say "Never again"...and we didn't think it would come back under a different disguise....

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Could be.

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Oct 24, 2023·edited Oct 24, 2023

Where do the ideas of racial supremacy and "the chosen" in modern society come from. Many Old Testament stories that pre-date the arrival of Abraham "Abram" in Canaan originate in civilizations found in what is now Eastern Turkey and Mesopotamia. In the Upper Mesopotamian area of southeastern Turkey the religious site Karahan Tepe dates to about 9,400 BCE, before the development of agriculture and before the appearance of the Sumerian Empire. Karahan Tepe is close to the ancient Haran, Abram's family homeland. Archaeologists previously thought that such a large development would not be possible without pre-existing agricultural surpluses, but lacking evidence of any kind for agriculture in the ruins they are uncovering, they now believe that the construction of this huge stone ritual center and city was built by hunter-gatherers who invented agriculture after they settled. The Sumerians were a non-semitic people who occupied the plains of the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers from southern Iraq northwest to southeastern Turkey and the eastern Mediterranean coast. Their civilization was made possible by agriculture. The Sumerian religion centered on the concept of the Anunnaki or "shining ones", believed to be descendants of gods who traveled to earth from other planets. The Anunnaki were conflicted and later created humans as slaves to work in their mines. Sumerians believed the Anunnaki were the ancient ones who brought knowledge to the world and that music was the key to decode the cosmos. The Sumerian Empire was later conquered by the semitic Akkadians ruled by Sargon who resided at Akkad in modern Iraq. Akkad was then absorbed by Babylonia and the Assyrians. In ehe Sumerian language "god" is translated as "El" and Elohim is the plural. A-elohim means "the elohim", the gods or "the shining ones". Modern day genetic testing has placed a concentration of Ashkenazi genes in parts of eastern Turkey, in the region of Mt Ararat, described by the book of Genesis as the landing place of Noah's ark and the point from where all peoples traveled to populate the earth. Ashkenazis were then part of a mixture of non-semitic Turkic, Iranian and Indo-European populations many of whom migrated south from the steppes north of the Black Sea and eventually established the Sumerian empire. These peoples were well traveled and familiar with the use of herbs and psychedelic plants found in the regions they occupied which may be the explanation of their beautiful but bizarre sculptures of human figures with bird and animal heads. Articles written by people after their use of psychedelic drugs often provide descriptions of experiencing multiple dimensions, humans shape-shifting into animals and divine revelations of universal connectedness and well being. They are experiencing altered mental states as a result of psychedelic plants. The use of these plants and substances in the Mideast and Asia is indicated by the discovery of residues at archaeological sites. These practices would have been used by priests employed by the stratified ruling class to convince masses of people that their loyalty to royalty was mandated by the gods. Priests were chosen by or related to the royal family and their agents who controlled all the significant assets just as they are controlled by the financial monopolists today. Even seven thousand years ago there existed a social class system, famines and overpopulation which caused unending violent conflicts. Too often these ideas and conflicts are rationalized, internalized, traditionalized, religionized and then institutionalized. The ideas of "chosen-ness", race and class superiority, mythical "shining ones", special knowledge and cultic relationships with gods who originate in the stars and come to earth, intermarry with humans and create slaves to work in their fields and mines. These ideas once they are traditionalized and codified, become a substitute for rational thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQuP82c6jW0

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Have you read any of David Icke's books about the "greys" or reptilian figures? His latest: The Dream explores what you outlined above, but with a different conclusion than yours. You might find it interesting.

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i dont have time to read the book right now but i've seen some of his videos. i'm pretty firmly rooted in observable science, don't see any need for interdimensional or interplanetary beings. from what i've heard and read, starvation, psychedelic plants, physical and mental phenomena, recurring stress can acocunt for most behavior. why don;t you save me the time of reading the book and just summarize what it says.

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Unfortuneately, I'm only on page 90 of 400. Lots of territory to cover. And what I have learned from reading David Icke is that the journey truly does reveal the message. To summarize my interpretation for you would be to deny you the journey--which perhaps you could consider given the strength of your convictions. Nothing like a stunner to shake us from our solid beliefs. Granted, it is hard to venture outside the realms of comfort we have established for ourselves--I really appreciate that. However, I don't believe I know all that there is to know. So, how else to make myself venture into the uncomfortable, unknown than to read something preposterous. Let yourself go, what have you got to lose?

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Great food for thought Toby! Stuff I’ve been thinking about. What little time I have to write anything, my reading focuses on what went wrong and what were the triggers that the issues we are all facing and to now move past it all unscathed. Or with as little damage as possible.

I have spent the last 2 1/2 years after leaving my nursing job behind, helping others navigate through the healthcare mess and find ways to improve it. Certified Nurse Advocates make a pretty penny but I do it for free, though I don’t go the lengths they do. It’s been very time consuming and stressful and I’ve had to take a step back.

It has given me a little peace knowing that I helped a few people avoid catastrophe by at least showing them how to use their critical thinking skills and not to panic.

People have become so dependent on the system to do that for them and look at where it got us. I’m also guilty of that. Those of us here can look back at what built our country from scratch and see that what a great job that thinkers, doers are survivors. It’s people that aren’t afraid to step away from the group think now that will survive this.

And when you look at those who regretfully got the shots because they were conditioned to do that, didn’t have any of the nasty side effects and injuries, and woke

up to the need to help fix this.

Now we are waking up facing the real threat of WW3! It’s awful to realize the evil doers at the top who have no compassion for humanity would push our countries to this place. It’s like our leaders lost our steering mechanism. But that’s what got us here in the 1st place.

So stay on track folks and keep doing great things that will help others get through it. Think parallel society.

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Re: Denialism

The causes of sudden or observable regression into autism are obvious, but the causes of autism that seems to be present from birth are not.

Before I understood all the various mechanisms by which vaccines can cause autism, I still believed the parents who said their children became autistic following vaccination. I just thought it was super rare (wonder where I got that idea?) and that it must be genetic in others. (I wonder what made me think that?)

Since we now have so many kids with issues well before the MMR, I don't think it is so obvious in many cases. People don't associate the gut issues, allergies, rashes, etc. with autism, even though these symptoms may be the precursors to neurological damage from toxins. Was it deliberate to cram more and more shots into the first year to make causation less obvious?

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we like to say: genes loaded the gun, toxins (from all sources) pulled the trigger. the causes of autism are multifactorial, that's for sure. and also highly individual. even full-siblings can present symptoms of toxin tipping in completely different ways. my youngest (who doesn't have autism) had severe medical symptoms as an infant but his older (by 18 months) brother was dx with autism at age 3.5. my youngest (soon to be 18 yrs old) bounced back after I stopped vaccines after he got the 12 month doses. their older (by over 10 yrs) half-brother is perfectly healthy. a review of their vax records shows that my youngest received MORE doses by age one, then his oldest brother received in his ENTIRE childhood. so are they a big factor? heck yeah. are they the ONLY factor. no, definitely not. one of their first cousins has a 6 yr old dx with autism & microcephaly; zero vax but mom was on an SSRI and took lots of Tylenol while pregnant.

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