Here are my latest thinking points: “Debate” They said: ‘show us the science.’ We showed them the science. And then they said, ‘you know what, logic and reason are hereby cancelled by order of the Cartel and we’re fine with that.’ And that’s where we are right now.
I feel strangely guilty. While awaiting to see if Australia was actually going to kick Novak out I half jokingly said they can't let him play and risk him appearing healthy and in good shape while the vaccinated on court have chest pain and drop.
First day and 3 competitors drop out with chest pain and a ball boy drops on court.
I would simply say those who didn't receive these vaccines need to be careful about the way we talk about and treat those who did receive these vaccines. We must not follow the "antiracism" example. Call out the bigots, yes, but don't label all vaccinated in a prejudicial manner and other them, please. We may wish that those who were coerced into vaccinating, or misled, had not been-- but suggesting we have moral and physiological superiority to them is a slippery slope I don't want to approach. If the latter is true, let's show our true colors and figure out how we can help them. Especially because that group now includes many children.
It's odd how often the thing I'm reading (*Justice at War* by Peter Irons in spring 2020, *Disturbing the Peace* by Vaclav Havel in spring 2021, lots of LeCarre right now) has a perfect line that describes the moment we're in.
There is a bit in *Smiley's People* in which Smiley is looking at a pavilion where his Russian agent has been killed. Someone has written, "Punk is destructive. Society does not need it" on the pavilion. Smiley finds himself thinking, "Oh, but society *does.* Society is an association of minorities."
The goal of American life shouldn't be consensus, and it certainly shouldn't be "consensus" that's really just fear-driven obedience, or obedience due to inertia. The FDA was created to protect consumers from snake oil salesmen and dirty food. It wasn't meant to dictate a list of products every American must buy. We're all different people who want different things from life and have our own ways of going about our aims. We're an association of minorities.
What we are dealing with is the greatest betrayal of trust that has ever happened in human history. Short overview of what happened, how it happened, and possible directions where things might progress into.
For me personally this is the most effective discussion I have with Branch Covidians. I ask them if any people have been saved by Ivermectin. They all say yes some probably were. I then talk to them about mass murderers like school shooters, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy and ask them what is the difference? I can tell they are still pro vax but they also know that innocents have been murdered for some reason. That bothers them.
Anyone who has blocked access to ivermectin during this pandemic has committed a crime against humanity and should prosecuted accordingly
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Game theory is interesting thought experiment.
All I know is this: The wife and I simply said, we want to see what happens with these vaccines. Maybe we’ll end up taking them, but we’re going to wait and see. In my opinion, that was about as rational and measured approach we could take, especially given our relatively good health.
And then we got Covid, and by the way I was very sick and unfortunately I did end up in the hospital despite the fact that I’m younger and healthy. We were initially denied access to ivermectin via multiple pharmacies and eventually found a compound pharmacy that filled the prescription, but that was day ten for me and I had full pneumonia. It was evil for them to refuse to fill the prescription. I agree these people need to be prosecuted.
Looking back, we wouldn’t make different decisions. Either way was a risk, but we had MUCH more data on the virus and who it affected, than we did the vaccines.
Anecdotally, I know a lot of people sick with Covid now that are fully vaccinated and boosted and they are pissed off about it.
Great stuff. Your point about Biden and his approval rating is spot on. If it weren’t so damnable, the fact that Biden could have dunked all over Trump and sealed democratic presidential and House of Representatives victories for a generation by eschewing the “Trump Vaccine” in favor of early outpatient therapy with repurposed drugs, but doubled down on Trump’s bet only to set the stage for an ongoing election referendum on the Democratic Party’s management of the pandemic, would be hilarious.
Did folks catch the Stew Peters segment two days ago where he interviewed an undercover 24 year CA veteran nurse detailing how hospitals are harvesting the organs ($$$) of deceased young mostly “unvaxxed” “covid” patients after “assisting” their demise via remdesivir / ventilation protocols? Just when I thought I couldn’t be shocked any longer…
I’ve long thought that belief systems are maybe the most powerful “things” to which people can succumb. Facts just slide off of them. Anger flashes when one’s belief system is challenged. It is clear now that no matter how many bodies pile up, some enmeshed in this covid belief system will never budge.
I'm getting text from Anthem, Blue Cross which says, and I quote! "Here's your shot to get $50 to shop. Get your COVID vaccine and earn rewards!" ... the tentacles of profiteers are in the millions!
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It appears Russia is amassing troops at the Ukrainian border, and among other news Reuters, along with several other government sponsored news sources, published an article regarding a CDC study showing superior immunity among those with naturally acquired immunity versus the "vaccinated" during the "Delta" surge.
Is there an attempt to divert attention, after all "Omicron" clearly appears to be burning the entire house of cards down. Is our government sleep walking us into war over their abject failure to manage a pandemic?
Simone Weil, "On the abolition of all political parties". An excellent little pamphlet on why democracy as a system where we vote for parties must result in totalitarianism.
Very basic summary:
If the party is to put its plan into action, it must be the party in power. Hence power becomes the goal of the party's existence. When in power, the goal of the party becomes to hinder any efforts to change the system, as otherwise the party will lose power. Since any and all political parties benefit from a system where established parties increase and divide power, no parties will want to give voters actual control over who gets elected or what gets decided upon. Thus, all parties will automatically gravitate towards the totalitarian position of power before any and all concerns or considerations. This will happen regardless of ideology or values, simply due to how representative parliamentary democracy works.
I feel strangely guilty. While awaiting to see if Australia was actually going to kick Novak out I half jokingly said they can't let him play and risk him appearing healthy and in good shape while the vaccinated on court have chest pain and drop.
First day and 3 competitors drop out with chest pain and a ball boy drops on court.
On bigotry:
I would simply say those who didn't receive these vaccines need to be careful about the way we talk about and treat those who did receive these vaccines. We must not follow the "antiracism" example. Call out the bigots, yes, but don't label all vaccinated in a prejudicial manner and other them, please. We may wish that those who were coerced into vaccinating, or misled, had not been-- but suggesting we have moral and physiological superiority to them is a slippery slope I don't want to approach. If the latter is true, let's show our true colors and figure out how we can help them. Especially because that group now includes many children.
Thank you for yet another great piece.
It's odd how often the thing I'm reading (*Justice at War* by Peter Irons in spring 2020, *Disturbing the Peace* by Vaclav Havel in spring 2021, lots of LeCarre right now) has a perfect line that describes the moment we're in.
There is a bit in *Smiley's People* in which Smiley is looking at a pavilion where his Russian agent has been killed. Someone has written, "Punk is destructive. Society does not need it" on the pavilion. Smiley finds himself thinking, "Oh, but society *does.* Society is an association of minorities."
The goal of American life shouldn't be consensus, and it certainly shouldn't be "consensus" that's really just fear-driven obedience, or obedience due to inertia. The FDA was created to protect consumers from snake oil salesmen and dirty food. It wasn't meant to dictate a list of products every American must buy. We're all different people who want different things from life and have our own ways of going about our aims. We're an association of minorities.
What we are dealing with is the greatest betrayal of trust that has ever happened in human history. Short overview of what happened, how it happened, and possible directions where things might progress into.
https://mellob33.substack.com/p/trust-and-betrayal-how-to-destroy
RFK jr was supposed to get access to data by Trump but that was for show.
At least with Biden, we know he's a pro pharma shill.
Trump was faking interest in the truth.
Both parties are the same fascists. Remember kids, they even justified slavery and apartheid under the constitution.
For me personally this is the most effective discussion I have with Branch Covidians. I ask them if any people have been saved by Ivermectin. They all say yes some probably were. I then talk to them about mass murderers like school shooters, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy and ask them what is the difference? I can tell they are still pro vax but they also know that innocents have been murdered for some reason. That bothers them.
Anyone who has blocked access to ivermectin during this pandemic has committed a crime against humanity and should prosecuted accordingly
You again nailed everything that's happening in a way that I have no talent for but am very appreciative that you do.
Some additions to the reading list please:
Elie Wiesel, Night
Mark Twain, everything he wrote
Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago
Kafka, The Trial and The Castle
Game theory is interesting thought experiment.
All I know is this: The wife and I simply said, we want to see what happens with these vaccines. Maybe we’ll end up taking them, but we’re going to wait and see. In my opinion, that was about as rational and measured approach we could take, especially given our relatively good health.
And then we got Covid, and by the way I was very sick and unfortunately I did end up in the hospital despite the fact that I’m younger and healthy. We were initially denied access to ivermectin via multiple pharmacies and eventually found a compound pharmacy that filled the prescription, but that was day ten for me and I had full pneumonia. It was evil for them to refuse to fill the prescription. I agree these people need to be prosecuted.
Looking back, we wouldn’t make different decisions. Either way was a risk, but we had MUCH more data on the virus and who it affected, than we did the vaccines.
Anecdotally, I know a lot of people sick with Covid now that are fully vaccinated and boosted and they are pissed off about it.
my contribution at this stage is the following: unpackingthetruth.org
Great stuff. Your point about Biden and his approval rating is spot on. If it weren’t so damnable, the fact that Biden could have dunked all over Trump and sealed democratic presidential and House of Representatives victories for a generation by eschewing the “Trump Vaccine” in favor of early outpatient therapy with repurposed drugs, but doubled down on Trump’s bet only to set the stage for an ongoing election referendum on the Democratic Party’s management of the pandemic, would be hilarious.
Love the encapsulated points format, Dr. Toby.
Did folks catch the Stew Peters segment two days ago where he interviewed an undercover 24 year CA veteran nurse detailing how hospitals are harvesting the organs ($$$) of deceased young mostly “unvaxxed” “covid” patients after “assisting” their demise via remdesivir / ventilation protocols? Just when I thought I couldn’t be shocked any longer…
I’ve long thought that belief systems are maybe the most powerful “things” to which people can succumb. Facts just slide off of them. Anger flashes when one’s belief system is challenged. It is clear now that no matter how many bodies pile up, some enmeshed in this covid belief system will never budge.
I'm getting text from Anthem, Blue Cross which says, and I quote! "Here's your shot to get $50 to shop. Get your COVID vaccine and earn rewards!" ... the tentacles of profiteers are in the millions!
Strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
It appears Russia is amassing troops at the Ukrainian border, and among other news Reuters, along with several other government sponsored news sources, published an article regarding a CDC study showing superior immunity among those with naturally acquired immunity versus the "vaccinated" during the "Delta" surge.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/prior-covid-infection-more-protective-than-vaccination-during-delta-surge-us-2022-01-19/
Is there an attempt to divert attention, after all "Omicron" clearly appears to be burning the entire house of cards down. Is our government sleep walking us into war over their abject failure to manage a pandemic?
Suggestion for your list of material:
Simone Weil, "On the abolition of all political parties". An excellent little pamphlet on why democracy as a system where we vote for parties must result in totalitarianism.
Very basic summary:
If the party is to put its plan into action, it must be the party in power. Hence power becomes the goal of the party's existence. When in power, the goal of the party becomes to hinder any efforts to change the system, as otherwise the party will lose power. Since any and all political parties benefit from a system where established parties increase and divide power, no parties will want to give voters actual control over who gets elected or what gets decided upon. Thus, all parties will automatically gravitate towards the totalitarian position of power before any and all concerns or considerations. This will happen regardless of ideology or values, simply due to how representative parliamentary democracy works.