It is thrilling to me to find common ground with so many people who were once political adversaries. If you believe in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, and are willing fight for truth and liberty, you are my tribe, whether Left or Right (I started out on the Left, moved toward the Right 30 years ago.) COVID tyranny has been a clarifying moment.
lolz, Slate.com has now written two more articles crying and gnashing their teeth over the ending of The Last of Us. Utilitarianism is the hill that they have chosen to die on apparently.
What a brilliant analysis you made Toby, I totally agree with you.
I watched the Harvard video and the immediate impression I got was that he/they are looking for the right type of students to follow their deranged why of thinking in order to carry on their disgusting work/schemes/plans in the future.
Wow, brilliant angle you took there. It's true that we've been conditioned to think in terms of greater good and that achieving that end always means sacrificing some of the masses of non-elites.
The only sure way of reaching the "greatest good for the greatest number" is through individual liberties. That's when people will thrive and the best ideas and policies will naturally make their way to the top.
Well, for the record I haven't watched a minute of the Last of Us and am MORE likely to do so having read your spoiler review. No problemo mi amigo. I also despise the "Trolley Problem" and for the same reasons. What moron thinks that the best solution to a problem is trying to kill the least number of people? Get creative morons. As usual, however, your telling of the tale was a treat. Very well explored, Dr. Rogers. Having said all that, how is it even possible that the utilitarians in charge convinced themselves that their "solutions" killed the least number of people on the tracks? Their solutions (lockdowns, masks, mass vaccination, and suppression of effective re-purposed drugs and therapies) drove the trolley car straight ahead over the largest number of victims. My apologies for extending the trolley problem analogy even farther.
I loved The Last of Us season ending. I would have lost all love and respect for Joel if he did anything else but what he did. As for the Oscars, I stopped watching years ago. I don't care to know what happens there unless they state the killings begin tomorrow. Then I'd like to be filled in.
Bs"d. A very good analysis about what happened over the last years and what is happening now. Although it seems to me that the "trolley challenge" has been practiced over a much longer time.
So, even before there were trolleys! Most of the rulers, as we have known thru history, were willing to sacrifice their fellow-humans "for the greater good". Could it be that people are start playing for G-d if they no longer believe in a real G-d? Or profess to believe in G-d, but bend the rules to accommodate their bias, desires or whims? Thank you, dear Toby, for your reflections. Inspiring!
What a synchronicity ! .( The advent of this series at this particular moment ..) 🤔 . Cherished institutions breaking down, partisan lunacy. .economic misery , populist rage, base indecency rules many peoples social media tendencies.. Aristocrat ( & bougiecrat educated lackeys ) genuine contempt for the great unwashed ..Only disguises with media rhetoric of "saving lives " It feels like this HBO series is throwing a bone. Vicarious panacea to quell the hord temporarily.. Until the next games. A colossus mind warp. Entertainment with some revelation of the method by proxy. Thanks for writing this review analysis ! Now I don't have to watch it . 😁
Man this is a good and thought provoking piece. Damn it, I have to donate. I'm gonna go broke this way, but in a new surprise, we seem to be hitting on a new Renaissance of moral inquiry these days. You're holding up your end Dr. T.
Yes, A true hero! Like all the parents who didn’t fall for the false choice of trading their kid’s air for their “education.” And you can forgive yourself if you did.
“stay in your lane, Chad.” 🤣😂🤣
I remember that “dilemma” in college and remember objecting with some question and told, no outs, those are the only choices and accepting that and choosing, and feeling terrible and believing I had to toughen up bc there are hard to divisions (Freudian slip lol, decisions) to be made sometimes. : ( Before I knew better.
I realized at several points in my life, more and more, I don’t need to accept the premise that those are the only choices, or options given are mutually exclusive choices or that the choice giver has the right to make up the multiple choices on my life quiz, or the given metaphor or whatever. If it doesn’t sit right, keep looking and asking. Or the metaphor given in a scenario, like the empty your bowl for new wisdom thing. Uh, get a bigger bowl and, I’m not a passive vessel for knowledge. True, we learn more by removing than adding, but the bowl is a way oversimplified metaphor for learning.
And, after sending my kid to a cult preschool for 2 years learned, just bc it feels good doesn’t mean it is good. That was a real initiation in discernment.
Nature/ GOD lets us know the fundamental choices. The rest is artificial layers of programming we adapt to in this video game of life. How to transcend the game…
Well while we’re here, Yes! Find Another Way! It’s what makes us dig deep, and create something out of the something we think is nothing. Don’t let our minds set our limits when our hearts say F*k No. Decide what we want and cut off all other possibilities and a better way will reveal itself. You have to be seemingly delusional in order to create something new, in order to not continue co-creating what’s already here. Intentionally, decisively F*kn delusional.
Amnesty??? I have a few choice words for the pond scum that practically spat on me for daring to tell them the damn face diapers belong on their rear-ends. Let's now even venture into me reciting the severe adverse events and deaths directly tied to the poison death shot.
I live in Commie Cali and was out buying gold and silver today (bc that paper funny money is worthless) and I saw wayyyyyyyyy too many people with masks on. Sheesch. WTF is wrong with these idiots????????
Thanks very much for another great article Toby. I don't watch much TV these days, however "The Last of Us" seems like one that I would love. I did read about the finale! I am an independent journalist and I wrote a piece titled, "The Veil Over Society Got Removed For A Moment."
I didn't use the Trolley thing, but I used the Stanford Experiment to illustrate herd mentality and dehumanization, etc. I drafted over Christmas when I had time to get good and mad. It's a personal rant about the bullshit diktats, mandates, lockdowns and overall psychopathic behaviors that ordinary people displayed with glee! I may have to 'steal' the 'playing god' phrase from you. Those sleepwalking morons who acted like someone made them kings and queens need to have their arses kicked from here to somewhere far far away!
Some thoughts triggered in me after listening to the Trolley Problem. I am not saying any of the actions springing from the various scenarios would be morally correct, but I think each situation would affect us emotionally in ways that would change the consequence. What if the five people were babies, and an 80-year-old man was on the alternate track? What if you decided to switch to the alternate track to an elderly person to save the children, but you in horror realize that person is your adorable, guileless grandmother that you love with all your heart? What if the one adult on the track is a scientist close to finding a cure to cancer (you won't know that)? Is saving five adults at the loss of the cure for cancer (that you don't know about) the greater good? What is the greater good? Who decides? Sometimes it is obvious, often it is not. However, it seems natural to wish to save five young people and sacrifice someone who has lived their life. But what if that elderly person was the only caregiver of three young children at home (you don't know that), and those kids would be in dire straits without them? We are in no position to judge what the greater good is in this type of circumstance, but that is what utilitarianism attempts to do, it is a Marxist pseudo-science, that has invaded the culture, as in for example the denial of organ transplants to the unvaccinated! If society really wants to align with the greater good, prioritize health over disease management, train doctors in nutrition, prioritize care over profits, remove school vax mandates, because children in general do far better without aluminum being injected into their bodies, and developing natural immunity.
It is thrilling to me to find common ground with so many people who were once political adversaries. If you believe in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, and are willing fight for truth and liberty, you are my tribe, whether Left or Right (I started out on the Left, moved toward the Right 30 years ago.) COVID tyranny has been a clarifying moment.
Two of my major themes combined:
Bella Ramsey, who plays Ellie Williams in The Last of Us, sings "Oceans" by Hillsong United. 🥲
https://youtu.be/4FI7XFZ73UM
lolz, Slate.com has now written two more articles crying and gnashing their teeth over the ending of The Last of Us. Utilitarianism is the hill that they have chosen to die on apparently.
What a brilliant analysis you made Toby, I totally agree with you.
I watched the Harvard video and the immediate impression I got was that he/they are looking for the right type of students to follow their deranged why of thinking in order to carry on their disgusting work/schemes/plans in the future.
Wow, brilliant angle you took there. It's true that we've been conditioned to think in terms of greater good and that achieving that end always means sacrificing some of the masses of non-elites.
The only sure way of reaching the "greatest good for the greatest number" is through individual liberties. That's when people will thrive and the best ideas and policies will naturally make their way to the top.
Well, for the record I haven't watched a minute of the Last of Us and am MORE likely to do so having read your spoiler review. No problemo mi amigo. I also despise the "Trolley Problem" and for the same reasons. What moron thinks that the best solution to a problem is trying to kill the least number of people? Get creative morons. As usual, however, your telling of the tale was a treat. Very well explored, Dr. Rogers. Having said all that, how is it even possible that the utilitarians in charge convinced themselves that their "solutions" killed the least number of people on the tracks? Their solutions (lockdowns, masks, mass vaccination, and suppression of effective re-purposed drugs and therapies) drove the trolley car straight ahead over the largest number of victims. My apologies for extending the trolley problem analogy even farther.
I loved The Last of Us season ending. I would have lost all love and respect for Joel if he did anything else but what he did. As for the Oscars, I stopped watching years ago. I don't care to know what happens there unless they state the killings begin tomorrow. Then I'd like to be filled in.
As to the trolley problem, cut off the power.
Bs"d. A very good analysis about what happened over the last years and what is happening now. Although it seems to me that the "trolley challenge" has been practiced over a much longer time.
So, even before there were trolleys! Most of the rulers, as we have known thru history, were willing to sacrifice their fellow-humans "for the greater good". Could it be that people are start playing for G-d if they no longer believe in a real G-d? Or profess to believe in G-d, but bend the rules to accommodate their bias, desires or whims? Thank you, dear Toby, for your reflections. Inspiring!
What a synchronicity ! .( The advent of this series at this particular moment ..) 🤔 . Cherished institutions breaking down, partisan lunacy. .economic misery , populist rage, base indecency rules many peoples social media tendencies.. Aristocrat ( & bougiecrat educated lackeys ) genuine contempt for the great unwashed ..Only disguises with media rhetoric of "saving lives " It feels like this HBO series is throwing a bone. Vicarious panacea to quell the hord temporarily.. Until the next games. A colossus mind warp. Entertainment with some revelation of the method by proxy. Thanks for writing this review analysis ! Now I don't have to watch it . 😁
Man this is a good and thought provoking piece. Damn it, I have to donate. I'm gonna go broke this way, but in a new surprise, we seem to be hitting on a new Renaissance of moral inquiry these days. You're holding up your end Dr. T.
Yes, A true hero! Like all the parents who didn’t fall for the false choice of trading their kid’s air for their “education.” And you can forgive yourself if you did.
“stay in your lane, Chad.” 🤣😂🤣
I remember that “dilemma” in college and remember objecting with some question and told, no outs, those are the only choices and accepting that and choosing, and feeling terrible and believing I had to toughen up bc there are hard to divisions (Freudian slip lol, decisions) to be made sometimes. : ( Before I knew better.
I realized at several points in my life, more and more, I don’t need to accept the premise that those are the only choices, or options given are mutually exclusive choices or that the choice giver has the right to make up the multiple choices on my life quiz, or the given metaphor or whatever. If it doesn’t sit right, keep looking and asking. Or the metaphor given in a scenario, like the empty your bowl for new wisdom thing. Uh, get a bigger bowl and, I’m not a passive vessel for knowledge. True, we learn more by removing than adding, but the bowl is a way oversimplified metaphor for learning.
And, after sending my kid to a cult preschool for 2 years learned, just bc it feels good doesn’t mean it is good. That was a real initiation in discernment.
Nature/ GOD lets us know the fundamental choices. The rest is artificial layers of programming we adapt to in this video game of life. How to transcend the game…
Well while we’re here, Yes! Find Another Way! It’s what makes us dig deep, and create something out of the something we think is nothing. Don’t let our minds set our limits when our hearts say F*k No. Decide what we want and cut off all other possibilities and a better way will reveal itself. You have to be seemingly delusional in order to create something new, in order to not continue co-creating what’s already here. Intentionally, decisively F*kn delusional.
Just finished The Last of Us.... Great review. Thanks
Amnesty??? I have a few choice words for the pond scum that practically spat on me for daring to tell them the damn face diapers belong on their rear-ends. Let's now even venture into me reciting the severe adverse events and deaths directly tied to the poison death shot.
I live in Commie Cali and was out buying gold and silver today (bc that paper funny money is worthless) and I saw wayyyyyyyyy too many people with masks on. Sheesch. WTF is wrong with these idiots????????
Thanks very much for another great article Toby. I don't watch much TV these days, however "The Last of Us" seems like one that I would love. I did read about the finale! I am an independent journalist and I wrote a piece titled, "The Veil Over Society Got Removed For A Moment."
I didn't use the Trolley thing, but I used the Stanford Experiment to illustrate herd mentality and dehumanization, etc. I drafted over Christmas when I had time to get good and mad. It's a personal rant about the bullshit diktats, mandates, lockdowns and overall psychopathic behaviors that ordinary people displayed with glee! I may have to 'steal' the 'playing god' phrase from you. Those sleepwalking morons who acted like someone made them kings and queens need to have their arses kicked from here to somewhere far far away!
Third option:
Set the switch lever half way between Right and Left.
The trolley is derailed, killing no one.
Assuming there is no driver.
If there was a driver, he would have already applied the brakes.
Or he would have jumped out.
Some thoughts triggered in me after listening to the Trolley Problem. I am not saying any of the actions springing from the various scenarios would be morally correct, but I think each situation would affect us emotionally in ways that would change the consequence. What if the five people were babies, and an 80-year-old man was on the alternate track? What if you decided to switch to the alternate track to an elderly person to save the children, but you in horror realize that person is your adorable, guileless grandmother that you love with all your heart? What if the one adult on the track is a scientist close to finding a cure to cancer (you won't know that)? Is saving five adults at the loss of the cure for cancer (that you don't know about) the greater good? What is the greater good? Who decides? Sometimes it is obvious, often it is not. However, it seems natural to wish to save five young people and sacrifice someone who has lived their life. But what if that elderly person was the only caregiver of three young children at home (you don't know that), and those kids would be in dire straits without them? We are in no position to judge what the greater good is in this type of circumstance, but that is what utilitarianism attempts to do, it is a Marxist pseudo-science, that has invaded the culture, as in for example the denial of organ transplants to the unvaccinated! If society really wants to align with the greater good, prioritize health over disease management, train doctors in nutrition, prioritize care over profits, remove school vax mandates, because children in general do far better without aluminum being injected into their bodies, and developing natural immunity.