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Jan 3, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

I have always been accepting and never judgemental of other people's religion. When my youngest son was a toddler he was obsessed with Jesus. Maybe not so unusual, except, we're Jewish. He was home with me full-time, had never had a babysitter and I didn't allow TV. In all seriousness, I would ask him, "Who is this Jesus dude you speak of? A park friend?" When he was in his car seat I would over hear him telling his older brothers, "You might think that's a house, but it's not. It's a house of G-d." when we drove by a church. I found him a protestant preschool, he told me it was the wrong chapel. I took him with me to interview schools, a Catholic School was the right one. And he wasn't wrong, it was the best school for our family until we decided to homeschool. By the time he was 6 he was begging to be baptized. He said it would set him free like a butterfly. I took him to Mass every Sunday. I taught his older brothers it was never acceptable to make fun of or question his religious choices, to always accept when someone offers to bless you or pray for you, to be gracious. He would invite them to Mass by saying "It is the must fun, ever!"

My oldest son was home over this past holiday break I reminded him of this. I told him I love him and respect his vaccine decisions just as I had respected his younger brother's religious choices. And that I hope he can respect mine. He became angry. Vaccines are not religion they are science! There is no G-d in science! It's not about G-d! I calmly explained not every religion is about G-d. But they do always involve a strong belief that cannot always be rationally explained by the believer. When I ask why he is so angry that most of his family is not vaccinated his answers revolve around our breaking the rules and making everyone unsafe. He doesn't want to hear about informed consent, medical circumstances or bodily autonomy, the science behind why my doctor says my genetic illness is contraindicated (if he got the shot (X3) and was fine, I'll be fine...ignore my doctor!) anger anger anger....just do it!

Like his brother before him, I respect his freedom of choice and his decision to believe as he chooses. And like his brother, I can sit in the back and be quietly polite but not agree. I had not read or heard of Forrest Maready before but I too could see there is an element of religious fervor to the vaccine hysteria and I tried to tell my oldest that the hunger for religious belief and guidance is very much part of being human. I will not attempt to take this from him, I will not try to convert him. He said I was trying simply by not getting vaccinated.

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What an amazing story about your youngest son. Thank you so much for sharing!

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Jan 4, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

What a superb parent you are. I am literally in awe. How did you come by such wisdom..and grace? Your children will call you blessed. Thank you for sharing this with strangers. I am, like others, moved and stunned. I hope I can be more like you in future.

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Jan 4, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

It has always been my philosophy that we do not own our children. They have always been our equals. They have simply entrusted us with a brief period of guardianship until they are better able to take over for themselves. Children are adult humans in their larval or juvenile stage. As such, it has always been my intention to preserve whatever bodily autonomy they have entrusted me with and I only authorized medical care for immediate life harming circumstances. Regardless of age I have tried to respect their ideas, opinions and faith, even when they seem foreign to my own.

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Jan 4, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

Hear hear. Uninvited they come (in terms of the parents not knowing who they will give birth to) and without permission they will leave. According to Buddhism a baby has a new body, but a very old stream of consciousness with its inclinations ready to ripen. Consider child prodigies such as Mozart as one example; born to a capable composer and violinist in his own right - Leopold.

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So sorry he is even angry at being disagreed with. Maybe there is an element of the need to control in him? Read Dr Malone’s article about the death rates reported by the Indiana insurance company.I sent it to many daughter who is under the influence of her in laws and husband. It can really sadden a parent to know this could happen to the child who could go through a grocery store at 4 and point out the junk food.

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I sent him this:

https://rumble.com/vqx3kb-the-pfizer-inoculations-do-more-harm-than-good.html

When I was young I told the Rabbi I didn't want to a Bat Mitzvah, it would make me a hypocrite, I didn't believe. He told me not to worry, G-d would be there.

Not helpful.

My oldest son has bought into the cycle of fear porn and propaganda. I have to be cautious in what I share or it just increases the hysteria and religious-like fervor.

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You are right. It’s wickedly hard. He wants to convert you to his vaxx religion. And we will never be able to convince them of any other path. The same way an addict can’t hear a non-addict plead their case. That’s why AA is successful and impassioned loved ones aren’t, no matter how hard they try. In the end we have to allow them the dignity of making their own choices and mistakes. We are not their God and they are not mine. Unfortunately for us the stakes are much higher with this ‘drug’ being pushed and sanctioned by the ones who should be offering help save humanity. May God help us all.

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I hope your oldest son will watch...I sent it to my sister, she said I am not going to watch some corporation about health care....Sigh....I told here these are doctors and scientists who have banded together to investigate the pfizer trial data...I doubt she will watch it. I hope your son does.

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I'm sorry you're experiencing this with your son. It's painful.

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Oh, and that story about the younger son - that could make one a believer in something beyond what seems real.

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Damn, this is good. Oh, wait, it's mine.

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What a fabulous story. Thank you for sharing. I can see you are a person of integrity... and a great mom. The anger in your son is disturbing but all TOO common. He'll come around one day. I really liked your story too.

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What an incredible story. Personally I believe in Jesus Christ as my savior. I hope more people will find the peace and clarity that comes from that relationship. I glean more and more from my Bible every day. I do feel anger at the tyranny surrounding us and disgust at those who can't think for themselves and have joined the vax cult. But, I'm happy to let them inject themselves over and over with this concoction if they choose. I don't agree with allowing children to be injected. They are innocent bystanders in this atrocity. But I guess parents have the right to do it, maybe.. That's a tough one. I do pray for truth to be seen by all and the wizards behind the curtain to be exposed. But you have a special gift to be as accepting as you are. I'm sorry your one son is so angry. But after reading this Twitter thread, I get it. Christ and God's word fill me with peace and hope. Your son's religion fills him with lies and the spawn of that is strife. I pray his eyes too are opened and that grace will heal his wounds. Another beautiful thing about Christianity is grace. It's the greatest healer of hurt, anger, betrayal, and shame.

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No one has the right to inject themselves with poison. Maiming oneself is against the natural law

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Jan 29, 2023·edited Jan 29, 2023

I most respectfully beg to differ. I am most disappointed with myself, for I did not manage to protect my ancient parents from the vax fearporn. They brought me up as a critical thinker, and being a child of the enlightenment meant great freedom and thus power in life. But, as I'd said to my mother in response to her assertion that religious people 'need simple answers', the aforementioned intellectual liberty, the fruit of centuries of people of the type of G Bruno to C Exley fighting for it, is a privilege that comes with the duty to grant others the chance of shaking off their [mental] shackles. My two infirm parents are very prone to accept the medical industry as their saviour and granter of a few more years of life, ironically, and they are certainly 'old enough'. However, I dare say children require and deserve guidance as protection from unfair advertising and propaganda under capitalism, which is even recognized by the relevant regulations in most jurisdictions. Children are new to the world, the world is new to them, and they are heavily reliant on emotional cues in navigating it, and industry has become extremely adept at targeting this ["nudging"] as well as mammalian herding techniques. Having Sesame street doing the needle party without even an "ask your doctor or pharmacist" disclaimer just had me horrified, before cracking into a wry smile in anticipation of it's looming 'great hangover of 1946' look. We, on the other hand, have hopefully found out that the vax are 100% harm no benefit for kids a long time ago on some substack your child has zero chance of finding. Not between the mask erm maths lessons that aren't taking place anyhow. Their info says: Little superheroes save [their] grannies' lives! 'Should kids be allowed to get shots against their parents' wishes? Sounds progressive, you might have thought, until you realize it only works one way round of course! Made me angry, that. And your son needs to learn that group pressure doesn't bother free minds. In respect and with <3

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Jan 3, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

I came to the same conclusion several years ago. A friend and I were having a discussion about vaccinations. I was trying to share info about the potential connection between increasing rates of autism and the high number of vaccines. She tried to end the discussion by saying, “I believe in vaccines.” I replied, “Vaccination is not a religion.” As Maready says, sadly for some, it is.

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Jan 3, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

It certainly is something that is seen as benign, designed to help you, be kind to you, and offer protection from something that you were destined to suffer from otherwise.

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answer: well, I believe in rattle snakes, but I'm not going to let one bite me.

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Vaccines are medical treatments provided to healthy children. I think most parents have to believe that no harm can ever come from them. They have to. Considering that a possibly unnecessary treatment that they authorized for their healthy child may have harmed that child in some way is too devastating for them to allow themselves to comprehend. No matter the evidence brought before them they will bury their heads. Some will double down.

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Easier to fool someone.. Lots of ugly heuristics rearing their heads here, hence the aggression towards contrarian messengers!

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Man has lost his connection with spirit, with the divine, with the transcendent, with nature. Your article is spot on and I couldn't agree more with your thesis. The 'age of enlightenment' replaced man's connection with these transcendental values, previously upheld by traditional faiths and beliefs, with the scientific view that man's existence was solely based on materialism whose origin was anything but divine. What traditional religion provided was the ability to go within, to pray or meditate, to let the mind transcend the boundaries of thought and experience the unboundedness of pure consciousness. Blaise Pascal said all man's problems might be resolved if he took time to sit quietly in a room alone.

We need the experience of silence in our lives to restore and nourish the soul to ponder the mysteries of our existence. Modern science has forgotten that.

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Jan 3, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

Oh, that Garden State clip! Juxtapose that with the clip of the couple getting engaged at New Year and kissing with their masks on. It says all that needs to be said. Our infinite abyss is not in front of us. We are in it. Our fear of lack of existence has resulted in us barely existing at all. Dulled. Mediated. Virtual. We need to start affirming unmasked life, in all of its connected peril and glory. A flurry of pictures everywhere of people kissing, the proper way, next to a picture of that fear-filled travesty. Also, pictures of people holding hands, skin-to-skin, next to a latex-mediated version of hand-holding. Laughing children vs masked, isolated children. Juxtaposition as reminder. Over and over again, until we shake people out of their fear-induced slumbers.

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Jan 3, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

Yes, The Good Citizen points this out beautifully in his essay https://thegoodcitizen.substack.com/p/remember-the-common-cold-and-shell

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Jan 3, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

Thank for referring me to that piece, DeColores! I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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Jan 3, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

It seems like a step beyond religion - like a cult. A world-wide godless cult with a small percentage of extreme zealots and a whole lot of scared and fragile converts (who may or may not be thoroughly convinced). I'm sorry for how this might sound, but I think there has to be an element of mental illness to go along with the religious fervor. How does a fundamentalist from any religion recover? Former cult members? Anyone with delusional paranoia? Obsessive behavior? Where are the mental health professionals who study these things?? Some people seem to be immune to the onslaught of cultist propaganda, at least in terms of what they believe (if not entirely how it effects them mentally), and I often wonder why. We are all human, after all.

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Yup - only a minority is truly able to resist cults which are led by power-hungry narcissistic personalities (like Tony Fauci, Joe Biden & Donald Trump) and it is very hard to separate someone from a cult once they enlist. Remember Patty Hurst? Brain-washing can happen fast and can be transforming. In many instances, it's based on survival. Adrenaline has a lot to do with it. If you are calm and can step back to look at things without fear, you've got a better chance. The media is more than complicit in this hysteria. They adopted a narrative that was profitable to them, and indulged their worst instincts to achieve their ends.

Some powerful members of the cult certainly may have diagnosable mental health problems, but the majority are just ordinary joes who are following the herd.

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Dr. Tom Cowan talks about the cult idea in this video, around the 50:00 minute mark: https://www.bitchute.com/video/16SoHEqJiI9Z/. I think the ideas presented in this video are super interesting overall.

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Anyone familiar with John Michael Greer's ground-breaking blog "The Archdruid Report" will be familiar with this idea - he calls this new religion the "religion of progress".

To paraphrase John Michael Greer: "The greatest conflict of the 21st century will be between the believers in the religion of progress and those who understand its multiple disconfirmations".

The failure of the "vaccination" program is one such disconfirmation, but unfortunately it won't be sufficient to overcome the religion of progress: that will require either a completely new religion, or the revival of an old one. Logic alone won't do the job.

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More, please. Very interesting

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Or maybe we could return to the indigenous ways of perceiving the world: that the natural world itself is sacred and worthy of reverence and respect. Mother Earth provides for all human needs freely and abundantly.

The thing is many of these cultures were matriarchal, egalitarian and truly humane. In fact, it's how our species evolved. With democratic ideals built into the fabric of daily life, and a healthy respect for the cycles of life and death, perhaps a recognition, honouring and preservation of their wisdom is the way forward. After all, any culture built on dominance, exploitation and slavery only brings misery and suffering to the vast majority.

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Yes, yes, yes! 🙌

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Kinda like the Lion King and such, eh? So tell me, do you really feel this approach will work NOW, given that it hasn't in the past, in any culture? ;)

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Are you aware that many indigenous cultures still around today have existed and thrived for 10's of thousands of years? Clearly they're doing something right despite relentless attacks from modern cultures. Instead of dismissing the idea outright maybe do some research? I recommend Derrick Jensen www.derrickjensen.org. to start. He references countless studies of past and current civilizations. The path we're on is omnicidal. ALL options should be on the table.

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You have child sacrifice in pagan lands....

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Paganism won't get us anywhere.

In October 2019 false pope Francis worshipped pachamama.

In December 2019 or earlier, covid started, whether scam, part scam...

I have seen a few Nov 2019 dates...

I saw one Oct 2019 date...

I think covid ,pachamama are related.

Personal guess.

YouTube Vatican, Francis and pachamama for "ceremony " videos.

Horrific

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Hmmm....not sure where you got the idea that paganism is the answer in my response above.

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Sacred, reverently, Mother Earth provides for all human needs?

Full on paganism

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Jan 3, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

Very interesting. Honestly, they need to find God. The real one, and then repent. Until that happens we’re all screwed. But honestly, I don’t believe it will happen until Christ comes again and reigns personally on the Earth when every knee will bow and every person will confess that He is the Christ. At that point, they won’t be able to deny Him any longer. But until then, I think they will continue to become more and more evil. Just my thoughts…

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Triumph of Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Gen 315. Peace if Christ in the

Reign of Christ .

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nH3ivarDNQI

I believe we are headed toward death camps or Great Age of Mary.

Tragic part.... Mary is held in such contempt by Vatican, protestants,

Many people claiming to be Catholic.

Look at Fatima, Miracle of Sun. It's God will She be greatly honored.

And instead? Pagan worship of pachamama on Vatican grounds, and almost complete effeminate silence

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The main reason for those vaccines is in fact blockchain. It is data, health care (if you have graphene biosensor and you own data and apps, you do telemedicine, you sell drugs, etc.). Blockchain is also Voting system and of course DIGITAL CURRENCY. This is why all those companies as MasterCard and banks are behind. This is also surveillance of everybody, so it is great for governing and mind control, as you can stimulate this technology with EMF, serotonin production (Klaus Swab: You'll own nothing but will be happy - or at least YOU WILL THINK SO). This is the end goal. This is why WEF and sorts of businesses are involved. Ultimately it is also "climate change"/ property / resources business

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Jan 3, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

Paul Levy brilliantly writes about Wetiko the mind-virus and a way out of this nightmare. I think you'd find it interesting. This is a bit about wetiko and his latest book: "Paul Levy’s new book Wetiko: Healing the Mind-Virus that Plagues our World is a call to awaken to a mind-parasite that has infected humanity with a collective psychosis of titanic proportions, yet is so familiar to be almost undetectable. Levy contemplates how wetiko—which is a form of mind blindness—has been creatively represented and symbolized in not only various spiritual wisdom traditions from time immemorial, but by creative artists and philosophers throughout the ages as well. In a unique and original synthesis of Eastern and Western spiritual traditions, evolutionary mysticism, shamanism, quantum physics, transpersonal psychology and the insights of C. G. Jung, Paul Levy shows us how to alchemically extract the healing remedy from the poisonous mind-virus known as wetiko by bringing forth the creative spirit that is thirsting to be born within—and through—us." Wetiko comes from creativity gone awry which is based on the belief that we all share a collective consciousness that is always creating, on some level, this dream reality.

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It's totally wrong to claim that they are worshiping "science" and "progress", for these things depend on transparency, accountability, willingness to question, rationality, and consent.

Do they call what they worship "science" -- yes, and they are intentionally lying in order to trick people into giving them power, which is what they really worship.

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It's a good point. They worship such a toxic clown show version of Science(TM) that on some level they have to know that they are lying and somehow benefiting from/enjoying the carnage.

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Jan 3, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

Great point. For them "science" is a means to an end. I always love to ask "Where in the scientific method does it say "believe?" and get no reply. Power mad.

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The real religion some worship is truth and progress, where science is one of the means for finding truth and thereby achieving progress, which is human flourishing. "Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed."

There is a virtue in that, evident to most people, ergo these power mongers feign a deference to science so it will appear that they have this virtue (of worshiping truth), in order to gain consent (power) from the masses.

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Scientific method depends on doubting, arguing, nuances, coming to a conclusion and starting all over again. ,,"I am science "... people didn't flip out over that?

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Falsifiablity and repeatability. In a nutshell predictions, predictions and more predictions. You want to claim "science" for your position you have to make predictions and they've got to be correct.

That is the genius of the scientific method. Someone like me without a PhD in a field can "follow the predictions" to see who is correct. It involves copy, paste, save and check back later. That I can do and enjoy doing.

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Jan 3, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

There is a certain level of truth in this. However, I don't think people can continue to worship the vaccine god once it is shown to be failing. They could just as easily worship the prophylactic and early treatment gods assuming that is more effective. I think what people are worshiping is the government.

We notice this when the government changes the narrative, the people readily follow the new government narrative however far it is from the original. For example the original narrative was that with the vaccine, you'll no longer catch the disease, no longer die of it or no longer pass it on to your loved ones. The new narrative is that the vaccines stop the hospitals from being blocked up. People seem to accept this without question as long as the word comes from the medical high priest.

I think it works like this: a large number of people no longer look to God for their salvation in this life or the next. Having denied God, there is nobody to save them from death, so this life is all they've got. Along comes an engineered situation (pandemic) whose objective is to spread fear and panic across the globe. Since this life is all the non-believers have, they clutch onto whatever might save them and in their panic they may have no qualms about sacrificing others so they can continue to live. People do have consciences, but in a state of fear, or other extreme emotion, it seems that they can temporarily lose their minds and their consciences.

it seems to me that fear is the key driver - look at how the media and governments have stoked the fires of fear with Omicron. So the solution is to remove fear. If Omicron is mild we have an opportunity to win these people over once they realise that their fears were unfounded. But we will need to act quickly before the oligarchs launch their next fear-mongering project, so they can keep people under control.

I could say a lot more about true saving faith in God, but that would confuse the point I'm trying to make above.

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I think you’re right so far as those who have been completely taken in by the scamdemic goes. There are a few leaders (Fauci and his cabal and Gates come to mind—I’m sure there are more) who do seem to worship vaccines. Or see vaccines as the path they want the world to follow, which in my opinion seems to be depopulation. I think Big Pharma is nothing more than a greedy, criminal enterprise that has convinced governments they provide an essential service.

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15-20 percent excessive deaths per year attributed to the vaccines for the next 10-15 years. I think in like 10 years when they find out they’ve terminally injured children the masses may wake up. Unless the media crafts another persuasive fear based narrative that leads them once again astray ?

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People seem to me unreasonably terrified of omnicrom. Delta killed people, this is a mild cold. They are terrified of being uncomfortable for a few days. That is an unreasonable fear - stoked by excessive testing and quarantines.

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Thoughtful words.. creation cannot tolerate a vacuum so yes people who never really know God Always fall to worshiping other things ... and so the cure to all these ills is to put Jesus as Lord and give Him the honour due... it’s really that simple...

if we do that He will fight for us against the idol of Pharma and many see He is exposing them for what they really are now... but there is more than that, there is the need to replace those who worship Pharma with those who Trust God.. those who trust God put their faith in Him... Ron De Santis shows there is a rightful place for medical intervention but it does not surpass individual rights and freedom.. God given rights

Those who ignore God fear evil and try to be God .. insisting on making decisions for everyone mandating vaccines.. sad but true ... God gives them over to irrational thinking..

We can only know freedom when we accept Jesus righteousness.. that I am weak He paid the price I never could.. what is amazing is that price was for healing .. by His Stripes we are healed..

So sickness need not bring fear.. faith in Jesus is faith for healing and very little need for doctors medications or vaccines... He took my sickness and pains..

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Our materialist modern world dismisses the possibility of the supernatural. With God's death, a meaningful life is impossible. An atheist ascribing any ultimate meaning to his life is simply being delusional. When he dies and those who knew him die, it will be as if he never existed. Hence, so much of our Western world's angst.

As a Christian, every day is meaningful. The standard is set. I know how I am to live my life, and I know that I will be judged on how I lived it, especially on how I treated the "least" among us.

Please know that when you dismiss Christianity, you dismiss Christian morality, a point made by Nietzsche. Then look around and see how many of our political, science, and economic "elites" driving this pandemic narrative are devout believers. The dignity of each and every human being is a notion derived from a belief in God. Without God, human life is equal to that of a rodent, an equivalence PETA correctly made about a decade ago. Many atheists vigorously disagree with this point but they are wrong to do so. It is absolutely true. Now revisit elite belief that there are too many people on this planet. Frightening, no?

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The issue is the “church”

Run by flawed people is often corrupt. And it’s a turn off. The real answer is to have a personal relationship with Jesus. But you do tend to get false information from churches and make turns that are counter productive and harmful. It takes time to figure it out.

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The Catholic Church is a divine institution which will last until the end of time. Corruption exists... a Catholic looks to the universal teachings, the Mass.

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You are equating Christianity with The Only Way Anyone Truly Believes in a Higher Power. This exact mistake is why religion has failed in such a colossal way to help people, and that failure is behind our current crisis and almost every crisis in the past. Nearly every religion thinks itself better than all the others. In truth, they are all fingers pointing at the same place. But because they think of themselves as "better" than other religions, they are at their core NOT coming from a place of love and understanding, and they are at core not just flawed but actually rotten. This inner corruption is palpable, and false, and the souls who listen to the falsehoods know in their hearts that those statements are lies. Only when churches lose their sick desire for more followers, their touting of their flavor of religion as superior, can they actually lead humans to a place of conscience, love for their fellow humans, and peace. Until then, they will continue to lose followers and fail at their task of creating a better world. This gigantic failure of organized religion to instill the virtues of caring for others, humility, and peace-seeking in others is a huge part of why the greedy rule and everyone suffers.

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Jan 3, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

Like the era pre-Enlightenment, I do think many have latched on to medical science as a sort of religion. At the same time, just like high priests of that era, the powerful ARE driven by lust for power and money - no amount is enough: one’s motivation is simply to have more of it - and manipulate the religious zeal of the masses

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Jan 3, 2022Liked by Toby Rogers

One approach being discussed by Robert Malone and others in the mass formation discussion is to work with the fear state induced by discussion of vaccine failure. Vaccine Zealots maybe able to transpose their fear of vaccine failure onto a greater - and more rational fear of totalitarian government policies

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This makes sense, but saw video of Austria where purebloods are locked down and vaxxed are relishing it

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