Alas, no article. Steve was live-blogging during the meeting. The FDA and CDC should release all public comments (de-identified) so that scholars and the general public can evaluate the data for ourselves.
Apologies, I think it was the chat associated with the CHD livestream (in which case no transcript). His Twitter or Substack might have some commentary as well.
One female commenter, not sure of her name or qualifications, argued that most of the emails and messages from the public should be ignored because they were "form" responses. All identical emails or phone messages should only be counted as one comment, she said. I thought that was quite petty and petulant, and that is exactly how she sounded. Next time I will try to personalize it a bit more, but I didn't even know about this until late on the 25th.
That's helpful info. Personalization is always good. The FDA only publishes the roster and meeting materials two days before the meeting so it's a rush to respond at all.
This is demoralizing. Even more frightening is seeing all of the people eager for this to be approved to get their kids jabbed. I am afraid to talk to my friends about my views because of how quickly they got their older children (12-17) vaxxed.
I’m also concerned that they will try and vax my kids while they are at school (all elementary age) and my kids being respectful of authority will just go along.
My kids are adults now. But if I was in your position, I would talk to my kids every day about this issue. We did it with "stranger danger". Now parents need to make it clear that no one is allowed to jab them with a needle if mom or dad is not there, PERIOD!
Great advice. I actually woke up and read this and talked to the older two on the way to the bus. Told them that the shot was likely going to be approved, oldest one said he knew because my mother in law mentions it every time she talks to him, and how excited she is for him. I said, we don’t think the shot is a good idea for he and his brothers and to not let anyone convince him otherwise. They were both visibly relieved. I told them that they don’t need to discuss it with anyone and to change the subject.
I told my 11 year old grand-daughter that kids in some schools were being given $250 gift cards to get the jab. I said I'll give you $1000 NOT to get it! She laughed and said, hm... $250 to GET A SHOT, or $1000 to NOT GET A SHOT, okay Gram! Hey, I know not everyone can bribe their loved one out of getting this f'n shot, but whatever works!
Agree with your comments, Toby. I saw the risk benefit analysis on slides first, before actually watching the presentation. I thought it was unfavorable to the approval. Particularly, scenario 3... Which is actually closer to "baseline" essentially calculated more harm then benefit, with significantly higher risk for males. I was also disappointed they did not consider natural immunity, that may account for 8 of the 25 million kids. The commentary by some was embarrassing? While some, like Meissner we're critical and elegant, others were simply placeholder votes, and could not offer anything critical. Knowing the composition of the ACIP, I doubt it will be any better.
I watched all of it. So that's how the sausage is made. With one shepherd and the rest of the sheeple voting yes with one abstention. To top if off, two of the panelists stated the only way to really know the risks is to give the children the shots. Criminal beyond belief.
“When we take power we will dismantle the FDA and CDC brick by brick and put the entire leadership on trial for crimes against humanity.” I will happily contribute nails, lumber and rope for the you know what.
Shame on each and every one of you. Not one of you had a spine or a conscience. The lives of the children physically harmed by this EUA is on each of your hands. May you not be able to sleep knowing that not one of you would take a stand for them.
I'm disappointed in each of you (not that you care about anyone other than yourselves, obviously)
Here in germany its also getting tougher and tougher for people unvaccinated... me and my husband just had corona, but we are only "free" for 5 months instead of 6! Don't know why... our children 14 and 16 had no corona and are not vaccinated. We do not know, what to do or where to go to see them grow up free and proud, but we will find a way and we will fight!
Let's see how long my people stay still, our history says they will crawl and turn away from discrimination of unvaccinated people! My dad is 80 and unvaccinated and absolutely healthy!
Thanks for your call to action drafts. I will email again and share this call to action with my friends. We need to fight this and stop that nightmare.
I scanned the Pfizer briefing document for the FDA and couldn't find anything describing how they defined "placebo." I'm wondering if they used an inert placebo, another vaccine or the excipients from the vaccine being studied. How do I find that information??
I understant ICAN did make sure there were inert placebos used in the original studies but I wouldn't be so confident that they did so with these. We'll see next week. Is there a way to read the data?? Anyone know the link??
If government is there to represent us, because we, the people pay them; and we said NO on vaccination, the decision on the hearing is a fraud, it s not valid, we were not heard.
The best way to make us heard is being on the streets where people can see us. The telecommunication system is with them 95% since their business grow with Big Pharma advertisements. I live in Puerto Rico and we have being their lab rats for years. Our people is sick do to their influence with vaccinations.
What a shame... I read that most of those in the commettee were former employees of the pharmaceutical companies, so the conflict of interests is obvious.
Thanks for the summary. For Steve Kirsch's claim that 99.999% were opposed to the EUA, could you please post the article? i couldn't find it. Thanks.
Alas, no article. Steve was live-blogging during the meeting. The FDA and CDC should release all public comments (de-identified) so that scholars and the general public can evaluate the data for ourselves.
ahhh, i hear you. any idea if the live vlog was recorded and posted?
Apologies, I think it was the chat associated with the CHD livestream (in which case no transcript). His Twitter or Substack might have some commentary as well.
no trouble. thanks again for all your work!
One female commenter, not sure of her name or qualifications, argued that most of the emails and messages from the public should be ignored because they were "form" responses. All identical emails or phone messages should only be counted as one comment, she said. I thought that was quite petty and petulant, and that is exactly how she sounded. Next time I will try to personalize it a bit more, but I didn't even know about this until late on the 25th.
That's helpful info. Personalization is always good. The FDA only publishes the roster and meeting materials two days before the meeting so it's a rush to respond at all.
This is demoralizing. Even more frightening is seeing all of the people eager for this to be approved to get their kids jabbed. I am afraid to talk to my friends about my views because of how quickly they got their older children (12-17) vaxxed.
I’m also concerned that they will try and vax my kids while they are at school (all elementary age) and my kids being respectful of authority will just go along.
My kids are adults now. But if I was in your position, I would talk to my kids every day about this issue. We did it with "stranger danger". Now parents need to make it clear that no one is allowed to jab them with a needle if mom or dad is not there, PERIOD!
Great advice. I actually woke up and read this and talked to the older two on the way to the bus. Told them that the shot was likely going to be approved, oldest one said he knew because my mother in law mentions it every time she talks to him, and how excited she is for him. I said, we don’t think the shot is a good idea for he and his brothers and to not let anyone convince him otherwise. They were both visibly relieved. I told them that they don’t need to discuss it with anyone and to change the subject.
It’s a start.
I told my 11 year old grand-daughter that kids in some schools were being given $250 gift cards to get the jab. I said I'll give you $1000 NOT to get it! She laughed and said, hm... $250 to GET A SHOT, or $1000 to NOT GET A SHOT, okay Gram! Hey, I know not everyone can bribe their loved one out of getting this f'n shot, but whatever works!
Whatever works. We're fighting for survival here.
Well done! 🙌
Agree with your comments, Toby. I saw the risk benefit analysis on slides first, before actually watching the presentation. I thought it was unfavorable to the approval. Particularly, scenario 3... Which is actually closer to "baseline" essentially calculated more harm then benefit, with significantly higher risk for males. I was also disappointed they did not consider natural immunity, that may account for 8 of the 25 million kids. The commentary by some was embarrassing? While some, like Meissner we're critical and elegant, others were simply placeholder votes, and could not offer anything critical. Knowing the composition of the ACIP, I doubt it will be any better.
I watched all of it. So that's how the sausage is made. With one shepherd and the rest of the sheeple voting yes with one abstention. To top if off, two of the panelists stated the only way to really know the risks is to give the children the shots. Criminal beyond belief.
Yes, it's really quite shocking to see if for oneself. Heartbreaking and criminal.
God bless you, sir. I am devastated by this action, but encouraged by your words. Thank you
“When we take power we will dismantle the FDA and CDC brick by brick and put the entire leadership on trial for crimes against humanity.” I will happily contribute nails, lumber and rope for the you know what.
I emailed them all again:
Shame on each and every one of you. Not one of you had a spine or a conscience. The lives of the children physically harmed by this EUA is on each of your hands. May you not be able to sleep knowing that not one of you would take a stand for them.
I'm disappointed in each of you (not that you care about anyone other than yourselves, obviously)
Julie Rocco
That's a conscientious citizen! Good for you, Julie...my respects!
Here in germany its also getting tougher and tougher for people unvaccinated... me and my husband just had corona, but we are only "free" for 5 months instead of 6! Don't know why... our children 14 and 16 had no corona and are not vaccinated. We do not know, what to do or where to go to see them grow up free and proud, but we will find a way and we will fight!
Let's see how long my people stay still, our history says they will crawl and turn away from discrimination of unvaccinated people! My dad is 80 and unvaccinated and absolutely healthy!
God bless us all!
"The majority of the committee said that they did not want mandates. " Bullshit - as soon as it is "approved", it is mandated. Fuck those people.
Thanks for your call to action drafts. I will email again and share this call to action with my friends. We need to fight this and stop that nightmare.
I scanned the Pfizer briefing document for the FDA and couldn't find anything describing how they defined "placebo." I'm wondering if they used an inert placebo, another vaccine or the excipients from the vaccine being studied. How do I find that information??
I had the same question and I do not know the answer.
In the US it was likely an inert placebo thanks to Informed Consent Action Network. However, who knows what they used in other countries.
I understant ICAN did make sure there were inert placebos used in the original studies but I wouldn't be so confident that they did so with these. We'll see next week. Is there a way to read the data?? Anyone know the link??
Thank you…fighting depression whenever I think of these little kids being forced to take the vaccine.
If government is there to represent us, because we, the people pay them; and we said NO on vaccination, the decision on the hearing is a fraud, it s not valid, we were not heard.
The best way to make us heard is being on the streets where people can see us. The telecommunication system is with them 95% since their business grow with Big Pharma advertisements. I live in Puerto Rico and we have being their lab rats for years. Our people is sick do to their influence with vaccinations.
What a shame... I read that most of those in the commettee were former employees of the pharmaceutical companies, so the conflict of interests is obvious.