I am living with a GOOD person/wife who was stating periodically I am gonna take the V.
My response was "Do you expect me to take care of you if you get injured? This effects me as well as you" This worked for a while. When an cognitive/existential mental health crisis was happening I got through with," You don't need to be a virologist to figure this out. Everyone knows there is no cure for the common cold. The CV is a cold virus. It constantly is mutating like a cold or flu.How many "boosters" are you ready to take? It is not a vaccine like smallpox. It is an MRNA shot." "you will listen to nothing I am saying so do your own research"
Seems to have gotten through after 6 weeks I notice enough change to be stable relationship.
Worth the watch, Dr. Desmet explains the four conditions present that lead to this mass hypnosis, why rational arguments won’t work to bring people out of it, and how we can try to stop it instead.
Thank you, this is a very insightful post. "...the mental surrender to fascism is entirely subconscious, out of view from even the fascist him/herself. Yes, it’s banal, yes it’s bureaucratic, but it is above all unconscious."
I have been absolutely stunned that all my friends and family believed the corporate government to narrative and took the vaccine without much thought. And these are mostly intelligent, educated people! I have always thought people are vulnerable to propaganda, and your post gets to the heart of why facts don't affect them. If they didn't think their way into the narrative, how can I expect them to think their way out of it? Especially now when they have so much to lose psychologically, narcissistically (they need to give up being one of the good ones) and leave the comfortable belief that larger, more powerful parent-like figures and organizations have their safety and best interest at heart.
I have fortunately made new friends who are savvy to all that is going on. I never have needed community in my life as much as I have needed it these past 2 years!
okay I need help. My generation (60--67( are convinced the world is over populated. They are all for population control, but when it comes to themselves, they say, oh, i didn't have kids, or oh, I had a kid but I would not choose cancer treatment, yada yada yada. I do not understand if they really believe the world is overpopulated, why they doh't go outside and drag in great lung bucketfuls of covid? They say the world is overpopulated, theat they don't have th eright to decide who gets to figure out the number, but they are doing their conscience. I am sorry, I don't think any of this thinking is correct. Can someone help me?
This is off topic but something I wanted you to think about. I am involved in a Rotary club in the Portland Or metro area. We have for years given dictionaries to third graders in different school districts. One is s very poor district with a large immigrant population. In past years when we go there to give them out in the class room it was clear they weren't ready for them and finally this year the school district said don't bother. The other district is smaller and more rural and the kids are better prepared and excited them. However, this year one of the teachers made the comment that 2nd graders are like kindergardners. Then the Oregonian reports that another school district near here had to shut down the middle school because the kids were so out of control for 3 weeks. Then the neighbor who teaches in a very affluent grade school across town tells me she is teaching her third graders how to read. Putting all of this together is very disturbing. Your thoughts?
Whoa. My thought is that the Vaccines for Children Program is genocide and these are the results. "The Flynn effect" (steadily rising intelligence in developed countries) has been broken and this is the direct result of too many vaccines too soon in the developmental process.
Yes, a powerful marketing campaign always hits the lizard brain. Most people act on emotion, not on rational decision. Mass Vax is a very well crafted, MASSIVE, well financed, and extremely efficient marketing campaign. We have to counteract with our own grassroots campaign. I had an idea of a crowdfunded "Vaccine Macht Frei" visual billboard campaign; went googling the next morning and saw that Piers Corbyn has already been arrested in UK for distributing a similar flyer. :)
Excellent observation! It is in keeping with a person's self-image to go along with the crowd, that the surrender to the party-line is subconscious - groupthink. But I'd disagree that there is no cognitive dissonance at play. I'd suggest that because individuals identify in a certain way, they are primed to go along with what is the 'standard-of-care' for their group. By avoiding questioning the sanctioned narrative, they avoid thought that could lead to cognitive dissonance and take delight in reveling in their cocoon of self-important ignorance.
“I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.” – Leo Tolstoy
I think it was Igor Chudov who wrote something like "appeal to their fear". He was talking about trying to convince parents eager to vaccinate their children to hold off on doing so. Since many of the pro-vaxx parents think Covid is the plague and the vaxx the cure, they are making decisions out of fear. It should in theory be possible to redirect that fear to something that has a much bigger chance of harming their children -- these awful toxic "vaccines" that at best will do nothing and at worst will injure you and wreck your immunity to future variations of the virus. Play the testimonials of the injured, show them the raw data on skyrocketing reports to VAERS, ask them what if, god forbid, one of these adverse events should strike their precious children. Is that a chance they want to take?
I like to start with "Suppose you were asked to create a maximally profitable business model for a Pharma company. How would it look compared to what is happening today?"
And then watch as they realize that it would look exactly the same.
local girl in our small midwest town just married a Brazilian... full on Nazi sympathizer grandparents came on the rat line after WW2. They came with money so a lot of these sympathizers are landowners in South America. South America got really lucky.. colonized by the Spanish... settled by Nazis... covertly controlled by US imperialism.
I agree, except Pharma wants you perpetually sick, not dead. In their pursuit of making the largest # of people as sick as practically possible, they also kill some...that is the price of doing business!
I've cut ties to a lot of family members and friends over the past 18-months. Their compliance is complicity, and I cannot have a relationship with those complicit in these monstrous mandates.
Anyone else feel they're being constrained to perform any amount of illogical behaviour, from wearing masks to having experimental jabs, just to indulge someone else's paranoia?
I am living with a GOOD person/wife who was stating periodically I am gonna take the V.
My response was "Do you expect me to take care of you if you get injured? This effects me as well as you" This worked for a while. When an cognitive/existential mental health crisis was happening I got through with," You don't need to be a virologist to figure this out. Everyone knows there is no cure for the common cold. The CV is a cold virus. It constantly is mutating like a cold or flu.How many "boosters" are you ready to take? It is not a vaccine like smallpox. It is an MRNA shot." "you will listen to nothing I am saying so do your own research"
Seems to have gotten through after 6 weeks I notice enough change to be stable relationship.
Those are brilliant points! 🙌
Thanks!
Worth the watch, Dr. Desmet explains the four conditions present that lead to this mass hypnosis, why rational arguments won’t work to bring people out of it, and how we can try to stop it instead.
https://youtu.be/TRCDPy5C2ws
Thank you, this is a very insightful post. "...the mental surrender to fascism is entirely subconscious, out of view from even the fascist him/herself. Yes, it’s banal, yes it’s bureaucratic, but it is above all unconscious."
I have been absolutely stunned that all my friends and family believed the corporate government to narrative and took the vaccine without much thought. And these are mostly intelligent, educated people! I have always thought people are vulnerable to propaganda, and your post gets to the heart of why facts don't affect them. If they didn't think their way into the narrative, how can I expect them to think their way out of it? Especially now when they have so much to lose psychologically, narcissistically (they need to give up being one of the good ones) and leave the comfortable belief that larger, more powerful parent-like figures and organizations have their safety and best interest at heart.
I have fortunately made new friends who are savvy to all that is going on. I never have needed community in my life as much as I have needed it these past 2 years!
okay I need help. My generation (60--67( are convinced the world is over populated. They are all for population control, but when it comes to themselves, they say, oh, i didn't have kids, or oh, I had a kid but I would not choose cancer treatment, yada yada yada. I do not understand if they really believe the world is overpopulated, why they doh't go outside and drag in great lung bucketfuls of covid? They say the world is overpopulated, theat they don't have th eright to decide who gets to figure out the number, but they are doing their conscience. I am sorry, I don't think any of this thinking is correct. Can someone help me?
oh and ps, they don't think they were brainwashed by the pop;ulation bomb. Tss.
This is off topic but something I wanted you to think about. I am involved in a Rotary club in the Portland Or metro area. We have for years given dictionaries to third graders in different school districts. One is s very poor district with a large immigrant population. In past years when we go there to give them out in the class room it was clear they weren't ready for them and finally this year the school district said don't bother. The other district is smaller and more rural and the kids are better prepared and excited them. However, this year one of the teachers made the comment that 2nd graders are like kindergardners. Then the Oregonian reports that another school district near here had to shut down the middle school because the kids were so out of control for 3 weeks. Then the neighbor who teaches in a very affluent grade school across town tells me she is teaching her third graders how to read. Putting all of this together is very disturbing. Your thoughts?
Whoa. My thought is that the Vaccines for Children Program is genocide and these are the results. "The Flynn effect" (steadily rising intelligence in developed countries) has been broken and this is the direct result of too many vaccines too soon in the developmental process.
Are you saying the cumulative effect of childhood jabs? Not the spike jab? It is the effect of lock downs in my opinion.
I imagine this has been coming for years. Lockdowns certainly don’t help. But I imagine the injury predates covid?
Oops, I meant to say 2 different school districts.
Yes, a powerful marketing campaign always hits the lizard brain. Most people act on emotion, not on rational decision. Mass Vax is a very well crafted, MASSIVE, well financed, and extremely efficient marketing campaign. We have to counteract with our own grassroots campaign. I had an idea of a crowdfunded "Vaccine Macht Frei" visual billboard campaign; went googling the next morning and saw that Piers Corbyn has already been arrested in UK for distributing a similar flyer. :)
Excellent observation! It is in keeping with a person's self-image to go along with the crowd, that the surrender to the party-line is subconscious - groupthink. But I'd disagree that there is no cognitive dissonance at play. I'd suggest that because individuals identify in a certain way, they are primed to go along with what is the 'standard-of-care' for their group. By avoiding questioning the sanctioned narrative, they avoid thought that could lead to cognitive dissonance and take delight in reveling in their cocoon of self-important ignorance.
“I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.” – Leo Tolstoy
Collective narcissism is at play which is the tendency to exaggerate the positive image and importance of a group to which one belongs.
I think it was Igor Chudov who wrote something like "appeal to their fear". He was talking about trying to convince parents eager to vaccinate their children to hold off on doing so. Since many of the pro-vaxx parents think Covid is the plague and the vaxx the cure, they are making decisions out of fear. It should in theory be possible to redirect that fear to something that has a much bigger chance of harming their children -- these awful toxic "vaccines" that at best will do nothing and at worst will injure you and wreck your immunity to future variations of the virus. Play the testimonials of the injured, show them the raw data on skyrocketing reports to VAERS, ask them what if, god forbid, one of these adverse events should strike their precious children. Is that a chance they want to take?
I like to start with "Suppose you were asked to create a maximally profitable business model for a Pharma company. How would it look compared to what is happening today?"
And then watch as they realize that it would look exactly the same.
Well played! 🙌
Exactly right, its not rational, and a fact-based frontal attack won't work. Ever.
There are ways to get through to them: reachingpeople.net
I met a real Nazi in South America - his family had escaped from Germany. I wanted to punch the guy's lights out.
local girl in our small midwest town just married a Brazilian... full on Nazi sympathizer grandparents came on the rat line after WW2. They came with money so a lot of these sympathizers are landowners in South America. South America got really lucky.. colonized by the Spanish... settled by Nazis... covertly controlled by US imperialism.
Pfascism: Not Even Once.
I agree, except Pharma wants you perpetually sick, not dead. In their pursuit of making the largest # of people as sick as practically possible, they also kill some...that is the price of doing business!
I've cut ties to a lot of family members and friends over the past 18-months. Their compliance is complicity, and I cannot have a relationship with those complicit in these monstrous mandates.
My strategy is to reach out to the jabbed who catch Delta with early treatment protocols. It helps establish credibility.
Anyone else feel they're being constrained to perform any amount of illogical behaviour, from wearing masks to having experimental jabs, just to indulge someone else's paranoia?